Who is the Worst Canadian Prime Minister?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of Canadian Prime Ministers, specifically focusing on identifying who might be considered the "worst." Participants explore various Prime Ministers' actions, policies, and public perceptions, engaging in a debate that includes historical context and personal opinions.

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  • Some participants suggest Pierre Trudeau's consolidation of power in the Prime Minister's Office as a reason for criticism.
  • Others argue that the power of the PMO is limited and that historical context is important in evaluating Prime Ministers.
  • One participant expresses a belief that reducing government power is preferable to expanding executive power.
  • Concerns about Trudeau's massive spending are raised, with some participants expressing admiration for his leadership despite this.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about Trudeau's immigration policies affecting a friend, suggesting a negative impact on individual rights.
  • Historical evaluations of other Prime Ministers, such as Mackenzie King, Bennett, and Mulroney, are presented, highlighting their controversial actions during significant events like World War II and the Great Depression.
  • Some participants question the reasons behind public discontent with certain Prime Ministers, particularly regarding tax policies and election outcomes.

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Participants express a range of opinions on various Prime Ministers, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on who the worst Prime Minister is, and discussions often reflect differing political perspectives.

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Participants reference specific historical actions and policies of Prime Ministers without resolving the complexities of their legacies. The discussion includes personal anecdotes that may not reflect broader public opinion.

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Readers interested in Canadian political history, debates on leadership effectiveness, and the impact of government policies may find this discussion relevant.

Who was the worst Canadian Prime Minister in the 20th Century?

  • Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • Martin Brian Mulroney

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Robert Laird Borden

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • William Lyon Mackenzie King

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Richard Bedford Bennett

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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You know we always talk about American presidents. I think our friendly neighbour to the north deserves some attention. So I've compiled a list of the most significant prime ministers, let's have a debate!
 
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I pick...what are the names again? I seemed to have forgotten all of their names.
 
hmm.. who's the most to the Left? :biggrin:
 
Chretien or Trudeau probably. But I tend to gauge prime ministers on what they do, not where they are on the spectrum.
 
Ok...I picked Mr. Trudeau because of the following reason:

"Former Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau, who more than any previous Prime Minister consolidated power in the PMO (Prime Minister's Office)"
 
that's true, but you know the PM office still doesn't have a whole lot of power. Most conservatives and liberals alike will agree the president needed more power at the time.
 
Smurf said:
that's true, but you know the PM office still doesn't have a whole lot of power. Most conservatives and liberals alike will agree the president needed more power at the time.

From what I read, I would agree to a point. The problem is that big government is much easier to acquire than it is to get rid of. I happen to think that the solution to most of the problems created by the government is best fixed by reducing government...not making more government.

So increasing the power of the executive branch of the government may have been a good thing but I think a better thing would have been to restrict the power of parliament instead of expanding the power of the executive. Or perhaps just a reappointment of power between parliament and prime minister...

Of course, that may have been what happened but I for some reason doubt it.
 
Townsend are you sure you understand Canada's separation of powers? Just asking, because it works rather differently here.
 
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Smurf said:
Townsend are you sure you understand Canada's separation of powers?

:smile: no...I'm doing a lot of guessing.
 
  • #11
The reason most conservatives dislike Trudeau is because of his massive spending. personally, I think he was one of the best PMs we've ever had.
 
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Smurf said:
The reason most conservatives dislike Trudeau is because of his massive spending. personally, I think he was one of the best PMs we've ever had.

Well massive spending is a very good reason to dislike an executive officer so I cannot say I blame the conservatives for feeling the way they do.
 
  • #13
oh god... oh god...

I don't know what to pick! They're all too damn unimportant! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
  • #14
Smurf said:
The reason most conservatives dislike Trudeau is because of his massive spending. personally, I think he was one of the best PMs we've ever had.

You don't like using your money you work for? No job?
 
  • #15
I had to pick Trudeau, because, he kept throwing my friend out of Canada. It seems Trudeau took exception to my friend practicing international law. As an American native Cheyenne married to a Micmac woman he visited Austria and the result was:

1982 - Austria recognizes Sante' Mawio'mi as a sovereign power.
He had to keep leaving after his visa expired, the Canadian equivalent of our immigration department was always there the day his visa expired to make sure he was leaving.

He always was one to stir it up.
 
  • #16
Pengwuino said:
You don't like using your money you work for? No job?
Meh, if I break my leg I don't have to give a cent to the hospital. Figure it's worth it. I don't need any extra money. I'm not much of a consumer.
 
  • #17
To give a brief overview of who each of them are:
Mackenzie King was PM for ww2. Questionable performance.

Bennett was PM for most (and worst) of the Great Depression - didn't even try to fix it.

Brian Mulroney is probably the most hated PM in Canada, he's responsible for signing NAFTA and selling so much of our business to the states. He doesn't live in Canada anymore, he took all his personal profits and moved to England.

Robert Laird Borden was the PM for WW1 and did an absolutely horrible job of it. I mean, come on! The ROSS RIFLE. Canadian soldiers discarded their rifles and grabbed the lee entfield of dead british troops whenever they could. They also gave us crappy boots, crappy shovels and ... crappy everything!

Jean Chretien stepped down last election. Replaced by Martin. A lot of people don't seem to like him, not sure why.
 
  • #18
Dunno, what have they done?
 
  • #19
do your own research.
 
  • #20
Smurf said:
Jean Chretien stepped down last election. Replaced by Martin. A lot of people don't seem to like him, not sure why.

I think it's for not scrapping the GST after he had said he would. Personally, I like him more than Martin.
 
  • #21
You know I would've thought more conservatives would dislike Brian Mulroney, seeing as he's the sole reason the conservatives have no ( zero) chance of winning an election any time soon at all.
 
  • #22
Smurf said:
do your own research.

I've got better things to do! :smile:
 

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