Forgot how to integrate yes t*cos(Pi*t)

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function t*cos(πt) as part of a position vector integration problem. Participants are exploring integration techniques, particularly integration by parts, to solve the integral.

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  • Participants discuss using integration by parts, with attempts to define functions f and dg. There are questions about the integration of cos(πt) and how to correctly apply the integration by parts formula. Some participants express confusion regarding the steps and the results obtained from computational tools like Maple.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on integration techniques. There are indications of productive exploration, as some participants clarify steps and correct misunderstandings about the integration process. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final approach or solution yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is also an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of integration by parts and the interpretation of the integral's components.

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forgot how to integrate! yes! t*cos(Pi*t)

Hello everyone I'm integrating a position vector and I'm stuck on integrating the j unit. t*cos(Pi*t);
the answer i got with maple is:
1/Pi^2*(cos(Pi*t)+Pi*t*sin(Pi*t))
but i have no idea how maple busted that out.
if i let u = cos(Pi*t);
du = sin(Pi*t)*Pi dt;
1/Pi du = sin(Pi*t);
but i don't see how this is helping me any...
 
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Use integration by parts: f = t and dg = cos(pi*t)dt

Then [itex]\int {fdg = fg - } \int {gdf}[/itex]
 
Thanks for the responce but I'm still messing it up!
I let f = t; dg = cos(Pi*t) dt;
df = 1;
i integrated dg, to get g, and got:
g = [t*sin(Pi*t)]/Pi;

then u said:
fg - integral(g*df);
(1)([t*sin(Pi*t)]/Pi) - integral (t*sin(Pi*t)]/Pi)(1); but now I'm stuck integrating this function by parts too?
 
Your integral for dg has found a factor of t for some reason, your integral should be:

[tex] \int \cos (\pi t ) dt = \frac{1}{\pi} \sin(\pi t)[/tex]
 
i had that, but the def says: [itex]\int {fdg = fg - } \int {gdf}[/itex] so doesn't this mean i have to take f which is t, and multiply it by g? which is [tex] \int \cos (\pi t ) dt = \frac{1}{\pi} \sin(\pi t)[/tex] that's where i got that t from
 
Remember the integral on the RHS is asking for the derivative of f, so we have

[tex] \int t\cos(\pi t) dt = \frac{t}{\pi}\sin(\pi t) - \frac{1}{\pi} \int \sin( \pi t ) dt[/tex]
 
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ohhh thanks again sqrt!
 

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