Understanding Differential Operators and their Relationship to O.D.E. Equations

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between differential operators and ordinary differential equations (O.D.E.s), particularly focusing on why solutions to differential operators appear to align with solutions to the corresponding O.D.E.s. The scope includes conceptual clarification and technical reasoning related to differential equations and their solutions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the premise of the original inquiry, stating that a differential operator does not have an answer as it is not an equation or problem.
  • Another participant suggests that the original question may refer to the "fundamental solution" of the differential operator.
  • A participant provides an example of a differential equation, (D^2 - d - 2)y = 0, and claims that solving for D yields the same results as solving the equation itself.
  • Further clarification is provided that while solving D^2 - D - 2 = 0 to find D = 2 or D = -1 is common, it is considered "abuse of terminology" since D represents a differential operator, not a numerical value.
  • One participant explains that the characteristic equation derived from the differential equation resembles the original equation, emphasizing the convenience of using operator notation.
  • There is a caution that this relationship holds true only for a specific class of linear differential equations with constant coefficients.
  • A participant expresses that the typical approach involves assuming a solution of the form y = ce^(λx) and finding λ, which they argue aligns with finding the answer to the differential operator.
  • Another participant corrects the spelling of "lambda," indicating a focus on precise terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of differential operators and their relationship to O.D.E.s. There is no consensus on the clarity of the original question, and some participants challenge the terminology used. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the relationship between differential operators and their solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in terminology and the potential for misunderstanding the nature of differential operators versus equations. The discussion highlights the nuances in mathematical language and the assumptions underlying the examples provided.

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why is the answer to a differential operator the same as the answer to the original O.D.E. equation?
 
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That question doesn't even makes sense. A "differential operator" is neither an equation not a "problem" and doesn't have an answer!

Could you please rephrase your question.
 
I think he means the "fundamental solution" of the differential operator. :rolleyes:

Daniel.
 
for example:
(D^2-d-2)y=0
if you solve D, which is D=2,-1
it's the same as solving the equation~
 
In the light of your latest discoveries, your question still doesn't make too much sense.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
I think he means the "fundamental solution" of the differential operator. :rolleyes:
Daniel.
Actually, I would argue that that doesn't make sense either- an operator is not an equation. An equation may have a solution, but not the operator!

asdf1 said:
for example:
(D^2-d-2)y=0
if you solve D, which is D=2,-1

Okay, I can understand that, although your terminology is still odd!
I presume you are referring to the differential equation:
(D2- D- 2)y= 0 where "D" is the differential operator d/dx (or d/dt). D2- D- 2 would also be a linear differential operator.

However, solving the equation D2- D- 2= 0 to get D= 2 or D= -1 is what mathematicians call "abuse of terminology". If you intend D to be "d/dx", it clearly doesn't make sense to turn around and say that D= 2!
It is, though, convenient shorthand and we do it all the time. It is convenient shorthand for the "characteristic equation". If we were to look for a solution of the form [itex]y= e^{\lambda x}[/itex], putting that into the equation would give [itex]\lambda^2 e^{\lambda x}- \lambda e^{\lambda x}- 2e^{\lambda x}= 0[/itex] or [itex]\left(\lambda^2- \lambda- 2\right)e^{\lambda x}= 0[/itex]. Since [itex]y= e^{\lambda x}[/itex] is never 0, we must have [itex]\lambda^2- \lambda- 2= 0[/itex], the characteristic equation.
That "looks like" the original equation, especially in operator notation (which is the main reason for using it) because of that very nice property of exponentials:
[tex]\frac{d^n(e^{\lambda x}}{dx^n}= \lambda^n e^{\lambda x}[/tex]

Caution! This is only true for a very limited (though important) class of differential equations: linear equations with constant coefficients.
 
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sorry, i didn't make myself clear~
for the example above, usually the normal way is to suppose that
y=ce^(namda)x
and find namda
but the answer to namda is the same as finding the answer to the differential operator~
 
Yes, that was what I just said. Oh, by the way, the Greek letter is "lambda", not "nambda".
 

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