How to Calculate Rate of Thermal Energy Production in a Copper Coil

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rate of thermal energy production in a copper coil subjected to a changing magnetic field. The problem involves concepts from electromagnetism and electrical resistance, specifically focusing on the relationship between induced electromotive force (Emf), current, and power in the context of thermal energy generation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the power produced using the formula P = i² x R, but expresses uncertainty about incorporating the rate of change of the magnetic field. Other participants question the origin of the values used for current and resistance, prompting a review of the calculations for Emf and resistance.

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Some participants provide guidance on the calculations, suggesting that the resistance may be underestimated due to the total length of the wire not being correctly accounted for. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the changing magnetic field, induced voltage, and the resulting current.

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Participants are discussing the assumptions related to the geometry of the coil and the area through which the magnetic field is changing, which may affect the calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the parameters used in the equations accurately reflect the physical setup of the problem.

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Hi,

My Question:

A 22.0 cm- diameter coil consists of 20 turns of circular copper wire 2.6 mm in diameter. A uniform magnetic field, perpendicular to the plane of the coil, changes at a rate of 8.65 x 10^-3 T/S.

Determine the rate of which thermal energy is produced.

My work:

P= i^2 x R
P= (.0013 A)^2(6.96 x 10^-4 ohms)
P= 1.18 x 10^-19 W

After this I'm lost. Should I look into trying to incorporate the rate, so that I can find the rate of which thermal energy is produced

Thank You:smile:
 
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Where did your numbers for current and resistance come from?
 
Got resistance by using

R=rho(L)/(A), where rho=1.68 x 10^-8 ohm*m, L= 22 x 10^-2 m, and A= pi((2.6 x 10^-3 m)/2)^2

so R= 6.96 x 10^-4 ohms

And to find the current I first had to find the Emf which I used the following equation below

Emf=-N(delta BA)/(delta t), where N=20 turns, and for the BA/t combo I used (-8.65 x 10^-3 T/s)(pi((2.6 x 10^-3 m)/2)^2)

Emf=-(20 turns)((-8.65 x 10^-3 T/s)(pi((2.6 x 10^-3 m)/2)^2)
)
Emf=9.19 x 10^-7 volts


Finally I used emf and R that I found to find the current

I=(emf)/R
I=(9.19 x 10^-7 volts)/(6.96 x 10^-4 ohms)
I=.0013 A
 
I didn't check your numbers but the argument looks good. The power you calculate IS the rate at which theremal energy is produced.
 
Jena,

the L in the resistance is the total length of the wire;
in your case, 20 turns x 2 pi (.11m) total length.
(so your R is too small by a factor 20 pi )

The changing B-field is encircled by an Electric Field,
where E 2 pi r = Delta(BA)/Delta(t) . Here,
A is the Area that is pierced by the changing B-field,
or the Area inside the encicling E-field loop (if smaller).

If E is parallel (along the LENGTH of) your COIL of wire,
the Voltage "accumulates" all along the wire, like
Delta(V) = E Delta(s) = N 2 pi R_coil .
So in this Delta V = N Delta(BA)/Delta(t) ,
the Area extends outward to the COIL of wire
(the place where the E-field makes a Voltage).
(If the coil is bigger than the B-field region,
(you only use the A where the B is going thru.)

Looks like you used the cross-section Area of the wire,
so your Area is too small by a factor of almost 10000.
 
So to get the resistance I must first find the lenght

L=(N)(2 pi(22*10^-2 m/2)) and use this in the equation to help me find my resistance.

Is that what I'm supposed to do first.
 

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