Solve 2 Energy Problems: Conservation of Mechanical Energy

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to the conservation of mechanical energy, specifically involving a spring and an inclined plane with friction. The first problem involves a vertical spring and a ball, while the second problem concerns a ski sliding down an incline.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy principles, questioning the inclusion of gravitational potential energy in the calculations. There are attempts to derive equations for both problems, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, with some providing calculations and questioning the accuracy of their approaches. There is a focus on clarifying the role of different types of energy in the equations. While some guidance has been offered regarding the inclusion of gravitational potential energy, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations.

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Conservation of Mechanical Energy
(1) A vertical spring (ignore it's mass), whose spring stiffness constant is 950 N/m, is attached to a table and is compressed down 0.150m. (a) What upaward speed can it give to a 0.30kg ball when released? (b) How high above it's orginal position (Spring compressed) will the ball fly?
(a) Okay this is what I did for part a, and my answer was close but not close enough...
1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2
.5*950N/m*.150m^2 = .5*.30kg*v^2
v = 8.4 m/s (but the book gave the answer of 8.3 m/s) did I do anything incorrect?
(b) 1/2Kx^2=mgh
.5*950*.150^2 = .3*9.8*h
h = 3.64 m <~~~ I got that one correct.
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(2) A ski starts from rest and slides down a 22 degree incline 75 m long.
(a) If the coeffiecent of friction is .090, what is the ski's speed at the base of the incline?
(b) If the snow is level at the foot of the incline and has the same coeffiecent of friction, how far will the ski travel along the level? Use energy methods.
I need some to help me with problem 2. I have drew free bodies already... can't figure out how to attempt it.
 
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jrd007 said:
Conservation of Mechanical Energy
(1) A vertical spring (ignore it's mass), whose spring stiffness constant is 950 N/m, is attached to a table and is compressed down 0.150m. (a) What upaward speed can it give to a 0.30kg ball when released? (b) How high above it's orginal position (Spring compressed) will the ball fly?
(a) Okay this is what I did for part a, and my answer was close but not close enough...
1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2
.5*950N/m*.150m^2 = .5*.30kg*v^2
v = 8.4 m/s (but the book gave the answer of 8.3 m/s) did I do anything incorrect?
Yes.
You forgot to include a very important type of potential energy in your equation for energy conservation here..

As for 2, what work must be done against the friction?
 
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A Very important type of PE? Huh? Thereis a missing variable?
 
Well, you haven't included the change in GRAVITATIONAL potential energy from when the spring is compressed and when it is not.
 
So maybe...

mgh + 1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2
(.30kg*9.8*.150m) + (.5*950N/m*.150m^2) = .5*.30kg*v^2
11.1285 = .15 v^2
sqr of 74.19 = 8.61 <~~~ that isn't right...
 
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I think I may have got it... I believe I added the PE incorrectly. The equation should read:

1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2 + mgy

(.5*950N/m*.150m^2) = .5*.30kg*v^2 + (.30kg*9.8*.150m)
10.2465 = .15v^2
sqr of 68.31 = 8.26 = 8.3 m/s

so, that is the correct way?
 
(b) 1/2Kx^2=mgh
.5*950*.150^2 = .3*9.8*h
h = 3.64 m

that is correct also?
 

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