How Can You Calculate the Initial Speed in an Inelastic Collision Problem?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial speed of a car involved in an inelastic collision, where one car collides with another at a stop sign. The problem involves concepts from mechanics, specifically focusing on momentum and energy conservation principles.

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  • Participants explore the use of conservation of momentum and energy, questioning their applicability given the conditions of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without knowing one of the velocities. Others suggest using work-energy principles to analyze the situation immediately after the collision.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of work-energy to find the velocity after the collision, while the original poster continues to express confusion about the application of conservation laws.

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It is noted that the collision is totally inelastic, meaning the cars stick together after the impact. There is also a mention of the coefficient of friction and the distance the cars slide, which are relevant to the energy considerations in the problem.

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A car weighing 900 kg is waiting at a stop sign. A car weighing 1200 kg hits the oter car. The cars move .76 m after the collision. The coefficient of friction between the sliding tires and the pavement is .92. I need to find the speed of the car right before the collision.
I don't know what to use. Conservation of momentum doesn't work because I need at least one of the velocities.I can get the work done by friction fairly easily. But i can't get anywhere from there.
 
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Use conservation of energy (after the collision).
 
but using conservation of energy won't work because the final velocity is zero so that sets one side to zero. leaving the other side just 1/2mv^2. I am trying to find the v.
 
It's implied that this is a totally inelastic collision (the cars stick together). You can use work-energy to find the velocity of the two cars immediately after the collision:

.5*M*(v')2 = μMgd

where M is the total mass (1200+900), v' is the velocity immediately after the collision, μ is the coefficient of friction, and d is the distance the cars slide.

From conservation of momentum, you have mv = Mv', where m is the mass of the first car and v is what you're trying to find.
 

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