Dual Speed Motors: Understanding No-Load Speed of DC Units

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the no-load speed of dual speed DC motors, particularly focusing on a specific type of wheelchair drive motor with dual field windings. Participants explore the principles governing the relationship between field windings, torque, and speed without delving into complex mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of understanding regarding the technical principles that determine the no-load speed of DC motors, specifically in the context of dual field windings.
  • Another participant explains that in DC machines, the field current influences the magnetic flux, which in turn affects speed and torque. They note that speed is inversely proportional to flux, while torque is proportional to the product of flux and armature current.
  • The explanation suggests that connecting the fields in parallel allows for maximum flux and torque but results in lower speed, whereas connecting them in series reduces flux, increases speed, and decreases torque.
  • Counter electromotive force (EMF) is introduced as a concept, with a description of how it relates to the armature's rotation in the magnetic field and its measurement under no load conditions.
  • References to external tutorials are provided for further reading on DC motors and their principles.

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Participants present various viewpoints on the principles governing motor speed and torque, with no consensus reached on the explanation of these concepts. The discussion remains open to further exploration and clarification.

Contextual Notes

Some technical terms and principles are introduced without detailed definitions, and the discussion acknowledges the complexity of armature reaction as a factor to consider in understanding DC motors.

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While I've worked with an awful lot of motors, including making simple ones and repairing several others, I don't know the technical aspect of what governs the no-load speed of a DC unit. Specifically, I have 3 really nice 12VDC 1/2hp wheelchair drive motors with gear trains. They're extremely handy for lots of things. What sets them apart from any others that I've worked with is that there are 2 sets of field windings, with 6 wires coming out of the case. They're meant to be operated by a joystick that alters the connections between the wires. One connection set-up wires the windings in parallel, and produces a lot of torque. The other wires them in series, which doubles the speed and halves the torque. (The rest are for doing the same things in reverse.)
I don't know the principle behind this effect. Can someone, preferably without invoking math, set me straight?
 
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In DC machines, field current sets the magnetic flux in which the armature rotates.

At given armature voltage, probably full battery voltage,
Speed is proportional to inverse of flux
and torque is proportional to product of flux and armature current.
More flux makes the motor run slower.
but gives more torque for the same armature current.

So it's a safe bet that with the fields connected in parallel each field makes its full rated flux and you get not much speed but ample torque. .
When you connect the fields in series, flux will decrease because each field sees only half battery voltage
so speed goes up (it's inversely proportional to flux)
and torque goes down (proportional to flux)

That's a word picture and subject to all the vagaries of word pictures.

You should read a DC motor tutorial and develop vocabulary
https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/basics-of-dc-motors-for-electrical-engineers-beginners

for starters

Counter EMF is the internally generated voltage that results from the armature spinning in the field flux at any given RPM with absolutely zero mechanical load, ie zero armature current .
We measure it by spinning the motor and measuring open circuit voltage with known field
Then we know the value of Konstant for that particular motor.
In Imperial units

Counter-EMF = Konstant X Flux X RPM
Torqueft-lbs = 7.04 X sameKonstant X Flux X Iarmature current

in SI units you use Newton-Meters and radians per second and the 7.04 disappearsWhen you grasp those two simple formulas you are well on your way to understanding DC motors.
Armature Reaction is a complicating evil that you deal with later when you get more seriously into the subject.

For permanent magnet motors you have a benefit - flux is constant and there's no field winding.
So it's real easy to find Konstant - just spin it with your electric drill , measure volts and speed.

old jim
 
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