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Need help with pressurized air
I think that is fundamentally the problem with measuring the temperature within the air chamber. The probes are usually placed ON something, not suspended in the air.- CapriRacer
- Post #33
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
The only reason I even mentioned convection is because the tire isn't significantly heating the surrounding air because of that convection. Indeed. That was the part that I was missing! And in particular, how that occurred. Interestingly, the way tire load tables are set up would result in...- CapriRacer
- Post #31
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
Indeed!! I'm afraid you're kind of missing the point of the article. It's not about predicting the rise in temperature. It's about getting a feel for the worst case. That 10% pressure rise is something I have a lot of experience with and it even works in Arizona. It's kind of an upper...- CapriRacer
- Post #28
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
A follow up: Thanks to all who helped me understand how water vapor works in pressurized air. This enabled me to write an article: [Unacceptable reference redacted by the Mentors] If you feel inclined, feel free to critique the article. You can leave comments there, or here. Either way...- CapriRacer
- Post #26
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
Baluncore, Thanks for replying. I posted because I wanted to see if I missed something - and as you'll see, I did! As stated, room temperature. Let's assume that is 20°C = 68°F And here's what I left out. A rule of thumb we tire engineers use is that a properly loaded and inflated tire...- CapriRacer
- Post #21
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
I think I've figured out what I needed to figure out. Thanks to all who contributed. Here it is: If I have an air compressor with a full tank at 120 psi, the process of filling that tank resulted in water condensing out, and the air inside that tank is saturated = 100% relative humidity. If...- CapriRacer
- Post #19
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
I see your point. I have to be very careful about which words I choose to describe this. I should know better as I frequently have to deal with such things. What I was trying to point out was that the air within the tire was not at 100% humidity, and that's not always how folks think this...- CapriRacer
- Post #14
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
I don't think that's how this works. The amount of water vapor in saturated air is also a function of pressure. Here's a chart that says that: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/water-content-compressed-air-d_1275.html If I assume the air in a compressed air tank is saturated (a pretty good...- CapriRacer
- Post #12
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
Thanks for all the replies. it's going to take me a while to sort through it all. But I still can't get my head around this whole thing. I think part of this confusion is the business of the Ideal Gas Law. If water vapor doesn't follow it, then there should be some test data that shows...- CapriRacer
- Post #9
- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Need help with pressurized air
Tire engineer here. I can't seem to get my head around the relative humidity of air inside a pressurized tire. What I'd like to know is if water condenses out of the air inside a tire when it gets cold. I'm trying to figure out the implications of using nitrogen instead of air as an inflation...- CapriRacer
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- Forum: Mechanical Engineering