Thanks for the graph you link to, which effectively takes the imagination out of combining the sun's spectrum with the absorption spectra. One small point, I think you mean graph b, in the doc I linked to, whose caption is: " The fraction of radiation absorbed while passing from the surface to...
On a sunny day, notably in Winter, your hand can feel warmth from the Sun, but as soon as you step out of the Sun your hand feels cold. This suggests that the effect is radiant energy from the Sun. That's all rather trite.
But is the radiant energy that makes you feel warm actually mostly due...
The thread you link to this thread. I have only given it a cursory inspection but I have already addressed at least on point in my post 19/7/05, 8:20AM which I quote below
"You quote "I expect to read about a rise of global temperatures." I understand that you are stating that this post was...
You state ”Now with two cases of non compliance with the models, why are we so sure that Pinatubo is spot on all of a sudden with no influence of other factors in the climatic system, other than that we want it to be spot on?”
Firstly, you have clearly not demonstrated “non compliance with...
“There are several sudden lower troposphere cooling events not associated with major volcano aerosol injections.” Yes, and so what? There are also warming events, but the key here is the strato warming spikes which do pick out certain tropo cooling events as assoc with volcanic aerosol...
Hi Andre,
"I think that there is little dispute about the climate changes having a warming tendency in general."
Would that not mean that the Earth's temperature is continually increasing?
"Perhaps it's interesting to see what IPCC had to say about it in 1990"
Surely it would be...
I stand by what I state.
Your graph http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/El-chichon-Pinatobo.JPG . And the Hadley Centre Graphs I refer to http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/CR_data/Monthly/upper_air_temps.gif both show that what I state in my post above, that both El Chichon and...
Hi Andre,
My analogy stands.
1982 and 1991 were incidents of volcanic aerosol injection, yet El Chichon, as you indicate occurred during an ongoing background dip in temperature - as you kindly demonstrate in your graph http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/El-chichon-Pinatobo.JPG . So I'd have...
Hi Andre :(
Looks like you got me here...
"And yes Pinatoba is clearly preceeding a trophosphere temperature dip. No surprise there but we see similar sort of dips in 1982, 1984, 1989. This makes it very clear that without the Pinatoba eruption a similar dip could have occured. So...
Hi Reasonmclucus,
If the use of maxima and minima on ground sites were a factor that significantly impacted the accuracy of temperature, then this should be apparent in variance between MSU and ground readings. Indeed there is a small unaccounted for difference. See the IPCC Third Assessment...
"Can you provide an article that references your graph? They may be correcting for some factor that wasn't corrected for in the other link."
Hi Patty,
As I post in my breaks (and at times when I shouldn't) at work I've not got the time to look into it(and I've not got the 'net at home). I...
Your 'ad hominen' link wasn't coming up on my machine, it's doing so fully now.
I apologise to Nile Queen, but what I was doing was not a 'straw man' it was 'not paying attention' mixed with 'assumption'. This being the 7th reference I've seen to their report, the previous 6 implying that...
Hi Andre,
Not familiar with the terminology, although I hear it all the time so can you tell me what "ad hominems and strawmans, " thanks.
There are issues you could tackle head on here.
1) I assert that there is no evidence that the current warming is due to the same processes as...
Hi Reasonmclucus, (got the name right this time)
"The global average temp is mathematically worthless. " Do you mean mathematically or realistically? I really don't know where to start here. Obviously the temperature of an object can be determined by taking mean temperatures and averaging. As...