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Since the recent thread on Bohmian mechanics (BM) is now closed, I open a new thread in which I want to explain something that bothers... -
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What about the case where the measuremtns on A and D are done, the particles no loger exist and only then B and C are measured? This a... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.Through this point, there is no issue. There are rules associated with theory. Entangled systems follow some different rules. That's... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.And I say it can't. Now, I've quoted actual experiments that describe the orthodox quantum theory and its well-accepted and confirmed... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.@Demystifier: Your attempts to deny the obvious by language twists surprises me. You're a Bohmian, and yet you find it difficult to... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.Norsen absolutely says B changes: "If particle 1 goes up, the collapse suffered by the CWF of particle 2 (on the left) causes it to go... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.We have agreed that when A's spin is measured, entangled B is instantaneously and nonlocally updated. Entangled spin/polarization... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.1. Everything theoretical we discuss is ideal conditions. So I'm gonna say that you should agree with this: If Bob rotates his... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.Yes, completely agree with everything you say. But that isn't my question at all. My question is: When B's spin component (let's call... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.This was my Q2: ...if A and B now have specific static values for their H/V polarization, does that also imply their other polarization... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.Ummm, from his post #42: DrChinese (quoted): Is there then a Pilot wave still affecting the B spin observable Demystifier: Of course... -
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Norsen's NO is correct. See my post #67 (and my posts #61 and #62 that it refers to). If you mean anything else in the universe other... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.You’re disagreeing with Demystifier’s comment, not mine. And yet again to quote Norsen on this point: "One of the particles will... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.My simple problem: a) Can anything Bob does prior to measurement nonlocally affect B? Because Norsen clearly says NO. (Again, see his... -
DrChinese replied to the thread Graduate Pilot wave persistence after measurement in Bohmian entanglement.1. The point I am making: the Pilot wave cannot affect B's spin after A is measured. Anything that goes on in the rest of the universe...