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    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Thanks, I will investigate this. I have to write this for a math class. This was the scenario I chose to investigate, but if it doesn't resolve itself nicely or is too much effort, I can always just change topics.
  2. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    AI is technically allowed, but the point of the report is to show a) understanding of the math used and b) solving things from the ground up (which is why I was discouraged from using energy concepts).
  3. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Ooops. Just ##\mu u ## at the end, right?
  4. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Ah right... ##\frac{du}{d\theta} = \frac{d}{d\theta}\omega^2 = 2\omega \frac{d\omega}{d\theta} = 2\ddot{\theta}## So the ODE turns into: ##\frac{1}{2} \times \frac{du}{d\theta} = \frac{g}{R} \left(\cos\theta - \mu \sin\theta \right) - \mu u^2## And if I'm not mistaken, the strategy is to...
  5. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    So ##\dot{\theta} = \omega## and ##\ddot{\theta} = \omega \frac{d\omega}{d\theta}## (I was clearly having a brain fart before with this part) Substituting into ##\ddot{\theta} = \frac{g}{R} \left( \cos\theta - \mu \sin\theta \right) - \mu \dot{\theta}^2## Produces ##\omega...
  6. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Oh wait 🤦‍♂️I don't know why I worded it that way but it's literally just the chain rule. Oops. Thanks for the help so far... I might come back here if the algebra gets too rough.
  7. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    It does... I see. OK I'll see if I can solve the ODE with the subs. and (maybe?) get the time of descent (too optimistic?)
  8. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    OK... I'm not sure how exactly: ##\ddot{\theta} = \frac{d}{dt} (\omega \frac{d \omega}{d\theta})## Bear with me because I haven't done much calculus... multiplying infinitesimals still gives me the heebie-jeebies. Is this right? ##\ddot{\theta} = \frac{d\omega}{dt} \times \frac{d...
  9. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Oh yay! OK so looking at the DE again: ##\ddot{\theta} = \frac{g}{R} \left( \cos\theta - \mu \sin\theta \right) - \mu \dot{\theta}^2## ##\dot{\theta}## substitutes out directly, but how do I deal with ##\ddot{\theta}##? Plus don't the trig terms still make it non-linear? Edit: I don't have...
  10. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    Attempt: ##\frac{d \omega}{dt} = \frac{d \omega}{d\theta} \times \frac{d \theta}{dt} = \omega \frac{d \omega}{d\theta}## Am I barking up the wrong tree? I'll probably kick myself hard, but I'm just not seeing it yet...
  11. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    I think I follow the chain rule part - would I be correct in saying ## \frac{du}{d \theta} =2\ddot{\theta}##? You may need to walk me through the rest of that approach... how exactly do you get it first-order linear? Similarly, if you start me off on the ## \omega ( \theta) = \frac{d...
  12. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    oops :oops: that's pretty embarrassing. I take it the correct DE is gcos(φ) - φ'' = μ(φ')^2 +μgsin(φ)?
  13. eddiezhang

    Time taken to slide down a circular path (with friction)

    This is for a math report that I'm supposed to write, which means I'm not supposed to use conservation of energy. This makes life much harder... so please bear with me. I am interested to see how you'd solve this purely kinematically though (if it can be solved that way). Please tell me if this...
  14. eddiezhang

    Help Understanding A Paper - Brachistochrone With Friction

    Continued grinding away on it; I think I get it now.
  15. eddiezhang

    Help Understanding A Paper - Brachistochrone With Friction

    Forgot to mention: the author is Russian and I don't know how I might contact him (if necessary... or even welcome). Would anyone know how to and should I try? Thanks.
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