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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    Yeah I have 'I=' in front of my work all the time, just didn't put it here... although you rightly pose an important point.. I'm not 100% confident about freely fiddling with the limits, although I know those 'properties of definite integrals' or whatnot, and are obviously relevant, especially...
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    dummy variables, solves having to integrate log trigs ^^; And it becomes so simple after all that work, with an easy integration to end. Hahaha I'm so slow... Thanks kof + everyone else who contributed
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    Ah yes, snipez, silly me, wrote it down and forgot to post it up here it becomes 2/(1+tan (t)); so we get integral ln 2 - ln (1+tan t) but i still don't like the integral ln (1+tan t) bit... how would I go about doing that... with the second approach: If you're saying what I think you're...
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    Thanks for all the replies + Dick's input (lol) Okay so I'm just going to spell out everything I've tried doing so far: Using kof's substitution -> Expanding tan\,(\frac{\pi}{4}-t) I get \frac{1-tan\,t}{1+tan\,t} The integral of that, I recognised is ln (cos+sin) if that's of any use later...
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    After a bit of fiddling: \int_0^\frac{\pi}{4} ln[tan(\frac{\pi}{4}-t)+1)\,dt I'm still not picking up anything... by parts from here doesn't look to friendly
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    Let's go... x = tan\,u dx = sec^2\,u\,du so it becomes \int_0^\frac{\pi}{4} ln[tan(u)+1]\,du and now I'm stuck again...
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    Cracking the Tough Integral: \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1}?

    Homework Statement \int_0^1 \frac{ln(x+1)}{x^2+1} The Attempt at a Solution Alright so I've come across this integral as the last question in the whole exercise set, and... I've gotten nothing... All previous questions have involved some sort of substitution.. but I can't find any...
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Ah so what I did do was stupid; made extra work for myself which indeed gave me the wrong answer. Thanks for the explanation.
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Yeah I think I got that so if you multiply top and bottom by z^2+1... I get \frac {z(z^2+1)}{(z^2+2)\sqrt{z^2}(z^2+1)^\frac {3}{2}} so everything cancels and I had the root 1+z^2 leftover (incl the z^2 + 2) in the bottom... or am I just doing something plain stupid here? However...
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    I've done as you've guided me And now I've got (after canceling etc etc) \int \frac {dz}{(z^2+2)(z^2+1)^\frac {1}{2}} What have I done wrong now...? I've got the z^2+2 but I have a leftover (z^2+1)^\frac {1}{2} from the du/dz having the index of 3/2...
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Thanks for staying with me here Cyosis; I understand both the substitutions you have provided (by that I mean I know what you're talking about in terms of d/dx etc) but I don't know how I can use the second one. Or is it a straight substitution after the first one you have provided?
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Now that I've edited the above... it becomes \frac {1}{a} \theta and \theta = arcsec \frac{x}{a} Yes, that looks right now. Thanks.Edit: However with your second hint, I am still struggling :(
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Oops, that's what I meant; not squared... better edit that.
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    Okay let's see: let x=asec \theta then dx=atan \theta sec \theta Edit: That comes to give \int \frac{1}{a} d\theta That looks right.
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    Solving Integration Problems Using Trig Substitution

    1. Question 2 2. \int \frac{dx}{1+cos^2 x} 3. An attempt at a solution I've tried doing various u-substitutions which went nowhere, I've tried making trig identities, but I can't seem to find one that works. I've also tried splitting the 1 dx on top into sin^2 x+cos^2 x etc. but have...