inter species feasting
There are a number of species that kill their own for any given number of reasons. Plenty of species kill their young when they are born, or at least try to. That has nothing to do with feeding purposes. We don't consider those practices immoral.
On the other hand...
all agents in the universe...
it almost seems like we should include all agents in the universe. But there is a reason we don't. For example, we don't consider it immoral when a lion eats a gazelle. Why is that the case? It could be subjective as you say. But let's suppose, for a minute, that...
I got the thread .. open
.. So, moving finger.. my question still stands! That being, What if the values had to be same! Would morality be objective then?
for the sweet love of God.
JoeDawg, I'm trying to clarify his one liner statement. If he answers "No, it is not wrong" then I'm clear on the view and can continue with the argument. So just let it go. I'm not trying to use any tricks here. He didn't seem to have an issues with it.
Moving...
no strawman not loaded or making them unnecesarily long
it is not over simplification, it is clarification. I'm trying to make sure he is clear on the implications of his one liner statement "all morality is subjective". I'm doing that, by posing a horrible scenario that is not left to chance...
No straw man here..
this isn't a straw man setup!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I'm asking him a question and awaiting his response.
In the straw man setup, I mis represent his point of view (say he means something I know he doesn't mean) then refute it. Usually, this is done with...
Yes
I could not agree with you more!
Without agreeing on the definitions of words, we get very little done. As is evident in this case. But, if I say to the kid, "your question is a contradiction in terms, go on about your business", when it is clear what he is actually asking, that would be...
applied definitions!
Moving Finger, that would depend on how one applies the definition of absolute. If you apply it to mean the whole of existence, then it would be incompatible with "good". Good is a concept which exists in the value system we refer to as morality. It would be a contradiction...
Nature
Moving Finger, the question of whether there is, "absolute good" or "absolute bad", needs a reference point. Otherwise, they can be used to mean anything. Which will take these forum posts to infinity and beyond.
For example, take the act of a snake eating a mouse. Is this "good" or...