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    Confused about water/compressed air

    The elapsed time of this happening is a couple of minutes max. We are going to conduct this test again with a higher gauge since the previous one read 0-300psi and pegged when the water filled the hydrant. There is a check valve upstream at the fire pump hundreds of feet away. (the fire pump is...
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    Of course, when using this formula we are assuming that any other variables such as elevation change are not a factor. With that in mind, anyone see a problem with using this formula?
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    OK guys. I think I have finally gotten close to figuring this out with the combined gas law. (P1V1)/T1 = (P2V2)/T2 P is pressure measured in atmospheres V is volume measured in liters (does this have to be in liters?) T is temperature in Kelvins 1 variables are initial state (when hydrant...
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    Thanks, I will get on that asap.
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    Thanks guys. I like to think of myself as a pretty intelligent person, but physics doesn't take long to make my brain hurt. I appreciate the insight. Now, if I could just come up with a formula that takes the variables (water volume and psi, ambient air volume and the temperatures) so that I...
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    Not exactly sure how much higher the pressure reading is. My boss recorded them isn't available right now. I greatly appreciate your time and will think about this more and report back tomorrow.
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    The water source pressure is measured at a different location with a calibrated psig gauge at aproximately identical elevation. Hope this helps.
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    Yes. OK, the gauge is PSIG - not absolute. It reads zero at atmospheric pressure. Right, it's a hydrant like outside at the curb. It's what's called a traffic model. The valve is 5' below grade and above this valve the vertical barrel and top section are dry until this valve is opened.
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    The gauge is calibrated and measures PSI/kpa. Forgive me, I am not familiar with the difference between psig and psia. The air in the barrel is at atmospheric pressure and temperature as well. When I contacted the hydrant manufacturer I was told this was normal and would occur every time. Now...
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    Confused about water/compressed air

    This is my first post in this forum. First and foremost, big thanks to anyone who takes time out to help me with this. I work for a fire protection company; one thing i service is fire hydrants. I recently discovered this and do not understand why this is happening: A hydrant contains...
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