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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    I don't think the argument is that there is nothing there, but rather that any description of it as a sum of parts will be incomplete. Mandel Sachs holistic field ideas suggest to me that the random vacuum quantum flux is the ground of existence - white noise static as an analogy. Within...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Except they don't exist, we made them up. Show me a quark or an electron. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. http://compukol.com/mendel/articles/articles.html
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Of course we are. To suggest otherwise would be silly. What else defines the lines that divides entities. What is it that identifies that there is a vase standing on a table rather than one single entity? Does the vase know that it is separate or does the table? It is we that say that they...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    If you use Planck Units then E=mc^2 becomes E=m. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    "There needs to be something out there, or there would be nothing to measure, right?" Yes, but it is always human beings who are the measure of things and we tend to be a bit repetitive in how we divide things up... four fundamental forces, four base nucleotide bases, four seasons, four...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Do away with the particles and run with the quantum field.
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Exactly! Its all BS anyway, there is no wind, no house, no electron or virtual particles, just projections of abstract conceptions dreamt up by the fallible human mind. So if its all BS anyway, then why not go with the simplest GUT BS and make everything one, energy in physics, god in religion...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Yes, all very Taoist - but this just adds weight to my argument. Does wind exist, really? Waves can be defined as the propagation of information and energy, and in that sense be said to have real existence. Of course, you could carry the skepticism further and question whether energy...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    consensus reality - have you ever seen an electron, I know I haven't. It seems that scientists are just as capable of believing in their invisible imaginary friends as deists are, lol. I've found reference to research on 'wet electrons' that claim to have isolated electrons in a sort of...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    except that this guy has recorded it... http://www.geo600.org/documents/audio-files http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0709/0709.0611v1.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_600 http://www.fnal.gov/directorate/program_planning/Nov2009PACPublic/holometer-proposal-2009.pdf...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    You sure? I'd agree that zero point energy ISN'T virtual particles and doesn't derive from virtual particles or what they are doing, but I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with them. More like the virtual particles are "anomalies" within the zero point energy field.
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Hmmm, cool, an expert. So how are imaginary virtual particles any different from imaginary electrons? Do electrons actually exist? Go on stick your neck out.
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    It strikes me that elementary particles such as electrons and quarks have no real existence of their own. They are essentially defined by their field effects, which are mediated by virtual particles. No one has ever observed either, they have no descernible size, their existence is inferred...
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Sorry, I can't recall where I first came across it - I just googled it.
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    Real or Virtual Particles: Chicken or the Egg?

    Then perhaps you can tell me what the radii are for quarks and electrons? QFT may not predict that electrons and quarks are point particles, but, as far as I am aware it doesn't predict that they are not point particles either, and physics has no size for either of these.
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