Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby

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The discussion centers on the idea that certain bands and their original works cannot be improved upon by covers, with a focus on iconic groups like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Rush, and The Who. Participants express a belief that the unique creative synergy of a band makes their original music irreplaceable. While some acknowledge that there are covers they enjoy, the consensus leans towards the notion that the originals hold a special place that is hard to surpass. There is also a recognition that personal taste plays a significant role in how covers are perceived, with some participants sharing examples of covers they found lacking compared to the originals. The conversation touches on the broader implications of artistic interpretation and the subjective nature of music appreciation, suggesting that while improvement on originals is debated, the essence of the original work often remains unmatched.
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OK, this thread is an offshoot of the "even better than the real thing" thread, but honors Newton's comment in an earlier thread-response to a post of mine that "nobody could do Pink Floyd better than Pink Floyd." I said I'd have to agree. I have not seen it. The larger issue I'm exploring here is that maybe there is something about a band or group creative effort (doesn't necessarily have to be music) whereby you can't improve upon the original. IDK.

However, I'm going to give a few music candidates where I haven't seen a cover that improves upon "the real thing."

1. Pink Floyd
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Rush
4. The Who

Just to name a few..Your thoughts?
 
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DiracPool said:
Just to name a few..Your thoughts?

I'm a big Mike Oldfield fan. Of course basically nobody would ever cover him.

Ok, Hall and Oates did "Family Man." Didn't do anything for me other than the thrill of encountering Oldfield's music in the mainstream...
 
DiracPool said:
OK, this thread is an offshoot of the "even better than the real thing" thread, but honors Newton's comment in an earlier thread-response to a post of mine that "nobody could do Pink Floyd better than Pink Floyd." I said I'd have to agree. I have not seen it. The larger issue I'm exploring here is that maybe there is something about a band or group creative effort (doesn't necessarily have to be music) whereby you can't improve upon the original. IDK.

However, I'm going to give a few music candidates where I haven't seen a cover that improves upon "the real thing."

1. Pink Floyd
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Rush
4. The Who

Just to name a few..Your thoughts?

One thing I've learned in life is that it's never impossible to improve on something.

When someone defines a genre it can be difficult though. There are some Led Zeppelin covers that I think are better than the orig but that's a matter of taste and I'm not interested in debating it. Hillary Duff's cover of My Generation I like because it outrages old people. Isn't that the whole point? If we hate it, doesn't it mean that it's GOOD?

If someone wants to think that so-and-so is so perfect that it can't be improved upon, I ain't going to rain on their parade. I used to hang out in a forum of recording engineers and you never saw such a bunch of stuck-in-the-past kids-these-days-don't-know-what-real-music-is fogies, so I got sick of all that. Never again. Physicists are much more open-minded.
 
DiracPool said:
2. Led Zeppelin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNSSpXapks0

Robert Plant was quoted as saying that Dread Zeppelin was “one of his favorite bands” and that you guys did a better job on “Your Time is Gonna Come” than Led Zeppelin did. What are your thoughts on that and has the band had the chance to meet original Led Zeppelin members? If so, how did that go?
- http://sierramadre.patch.com/articles/q-a-with-dread-zeppelin-front-man-tortelvis-performing-tonight-at-sierra-madre-elementary

You're Time is Gonna Come.
http://vimeo.com/38408109
 
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Queen
 
WannabeNewton said:
Queen

I can't believe people even try!
 
ImaLooser said:
One thing I've learned in life is that it's never impossible to improve on something.

When someone defines a genre it can be difficult though. There are some Led Zeppelin covers that I think are better than the orig but that's a matter of taste and I'm not interested in debating it. Hillary Duff's cover of My Generation I like because it outrages old people. Isn't that the whole point? If we hate it, doesn't it mean that it's GOOD?

If someone wants to think that so-and-so is so perfect that it can't be improved upon, I ain't going to rain on their parade. I used to hang out in a forum of recording engineers and you never saw such a bunch of stuck-in-the-past kids-these-days-don't-know-what-real-music-is fogies, so I got sick of all that. Never again. Physicists are much more open-minded.

Oh yeah, well you can't improve on Rush...In fact, I don't know if I've ever seen a Rush cover. Youtube wannabe's don't count. I mean an official cover. Does anyone know of one?
 
It's really funny that you include Led Zepplin, because a huge number of their songs are stolen/covers from of other, usually totally unknown bands.
 
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DiracPool said:
1. Pink Floyd
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Rush
4. The Who

Queen.

Who cover by Van Halen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x122AkW4CyI

Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody with a symphony orchestra composed almost entirely of young women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Qr6GQEwbg

Led Zep's Rock and Roll by Desiree Bassett and Sammy Hagar. Let's see Jimmy do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGRHe4aYcg

Comfortably Numb guitar solo by a Polish teenager. She even has David's surly facial expression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfvQevEuymU

There's a solo cover of XYZ by an eleven-year-old, and a drum cover by an eight-year-old that was endorsed by Neil himself.
 
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All that proved is that people make bad covers of the originals... The third one made my ears bleed; want to be Yngwie should stick to mindless shredding not rock and roll. That second one is enough to make Freddie Mercury roll over in his grave, the poor man. The last one was nice though and Van Halen is awesome as always :).
 
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