Belle II Measurement Makes World Average Tau Mass Match Koide's Rule

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In summary: And I mean, this is a forum that has a relatively small number of visits, and the audience is not the most prestigious in the field. This is a place for discussing a certain discipline, but not for advancing it. And still, this discussion managed to make it to the arxiv, and it is the only discussion of the Koide formula in the arxiv that is not a paper, but a discussion.

Is Koide's Rule A Coincidence Or A Missing Rule Of Physics

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  • Coincidence

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  • Missing Rule of Physics

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Koide's Rule predicted the tau lepton mass from the electron and muon mass in 1981. The latest Belle II measurement makes the world average measurement of the tau lepton mass perfectly match this prediction.
We present a measurement of the τ-lepton mass using a sample of about 175 million e+e−→τ+τ− events collected with the Belle II detector at the SuperKEKB e+e− collider at a center-of-mass energy of 10.579GeV. This sample corresponds to an integrated luminosity of 190fb^−1.

We use the kinematic edge of the τ pseudomass distribution in the decay τ−→π−π+π−ντ and measure the τ mass to be 1777.09±0.08±0.11MeV/c^2, where the first uncertainty is statistical and the second systematic. This result is the most precise to date.
Belle II Collaboration, "Measurement of the τ-lepton mass with the Belle~II experiment" arXiv:2305.19116 (May 30, 2023).

Combining the uncertainties in quadrature, the newly measured tau quark mass is 1777.09 ± 0.136 MeV/c^2.

This is a big improvement over the previous Belle II tau lepton mass measurement of 1777.28 ± 0.82 MeV/c^2 from August of 2020.

This will eventually pull up the Particle Data Group value which is currently 1776.86 ± 0.12 MeV/c^2. The new measurement is consistent with the Particle Data Group value at the 1.62 sigma level. The Particle Data Group value is considering only measurements in 2014 and earlier. The new inverse error weighted PDG value should be about 1776.97 ± 0.11. This is a precision of one part per 16,154.

The Koide's rule prediction is 1776.968 94 ± 0.000 07 MeV/c^2. To the nearest 10 keV it is 1776.97 ± 0.00 MeV/c^2.


The Koide's rule prediction is consistent with the new measurement at the 0.89 sigma level and is consistent with the PDG value at the 0.91 sigma level. The Belle II result pulls the global average closer to the Koide's rule prediction based upon a formula stated in 1981 (42 years ago when the charged lepton masses were known much less precisely) and also is closer to the Koide's rule prediction than its previous less precise measurement from August of 2020.

Before the new Belle II measurement, the most precise single measurement of the tau lepton mass was the BESIII measurement from 2014 which was 1776.91 ± 0.12 + 0.10/− 0.13 MeV/c^2 (the combined error was ± 0.17).
 
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Is Koide's Rule A Coincidence Or A Missing Rule Of Physics

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It is like "Do you want coffee or tea?" all over again, and people will hate you if you answer "yes" on that question xD
 
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malawi_glenn said:
Is Koide's Rule A Coincidence Or A Missing Rule Of Physics

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It is like "Do you want coffee or the?" all over again, and people will hate you if you answer "yes" on that question xD
I knew there was a reason I didn't go into market research.
 
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I wonder how much of the revival of Koide formula is because of physicsforums :-D

The oldest post I see is 2005, May 23, and same day I did a posting to s.p.r that got less traction. Two days later Gsponer and myself did a commit to the arxiv, with an assortment of crude ideas. I have lost my email exchange with André, surely because it was in my academic account.
 
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As far as I know, there has never been a conference, or even a conference session, specifically about Koide's formula. In the era of Zoom, surely this can be done...
 
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String theory was a theory of the XXIth century that fell accidentally in the XXth century. Koide's was a formula of the XXth century that fell accidentally in a forum in the XXIth.
 
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