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I hope I haven't already mentioned this one but I think it was in a personal message.

I hate to do this but you have to see this one. The story is intelligent and extremely well thought out. If nothing else then just watch S01E05. Even though it's a cartoon The Matrix doesn't even come near!

EDIT: And here, we're talking no mercy. Those who get killed deserve it.

EDIT2: In fact, it's one of those rare ones where you root for both the protagonist and the antagonist because they're both so cool!
 
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"My country's history is one of manufactured suffering. I was a boy when the Tudors burned any food the rebels under O'Neil might think to eat. We starved; everyone starved. Mouths on the dead stained green from chewing nettles. You become resourceful in a famine. My parents died early; left my sister and me catching rats. The rats ran out quick. Fed my sister on my blood. Kept her alive for an extra 2 weeks. I didn't sleep for three days protecting her body from the starving masses until the ground thawed. I cut out her kidneys and buried her. Fat on them like a pig. I haven't eating a single meal since then without my mind going to that bite. It was the last thing I ever did because I had to. I control my life now. Every bite."
[Loads rifle and kills a person who tried to trick him]

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As I said: Even the antagonists are so hardcore you can't help but root for them!
 
I really enjoyed the first few episodes. The animation is excellent, and the story initially seemed grounded and human-scale. But then it completely lost me. Turned cartoonish, superhero-y, uneven in tone, and felt like it was trying too much to be hip with its - misguided in my opinion - use of referential music.

There's been a number of pretty great western-style animated series released these past few years. Unfortunately, most of them seem to suffer a drop in quality, one way or another, in their latter part. This one is particularly egregious in this respect.
IMO, YMMV, etc., etc.
 
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I understand your perspective. I admit it gets rather "cartoonish". Then again it is a cartoon and I think the plot (even though we've seen it before), is rather well put together. That it's made by a westerner and a japanese doesn't hurt. I wonder if there's gonna be a another season...?
 
Bandersnatch said:
I really enjoyed the first few episodes. The animation is excellent, and the story initially seemed grounded and human-scale. But then it completely lost me. Turned cartoonish, superhero-y, uneven in tone, and felt like it was trying too much to be hip with its - misguided in my opinion - use of referential music.

There's been a number of pretty great western-style animated series released these past few years. Unfortunately, most of them seem to suffer a drop in quality, one way or another, in their latter part. This one is particularly egregious in this respect.
IMO, YMMV, etc., etc.
I suspect perhaps you lost something for it at the same point I did. That is when the protagonist attacked Fowler's hide it went into a little silly "computer game" mode. I was about to loose my patience with it at that point, but I persevered. I'm glad I did. But as I said: even without that break I understand where you're coming from.
 
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That is when the protagonist attacked Fowler's hide it went into a little silly "computer game" mode
Yeah, the hideout assault was when I stopped caring for it, even though I kept watching hoping for an improvement. But earlier already, when the soundtrack from Kill Bill started playing over a training montage, it was a sign of things to come.
 
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Yeah, the hideout assault was when I stopped caring for it, even though I kept watching hoping for an improvement. But earlier already, when the soundtrack from Kill Bill started playing over a training montage, it was a sign of things to come.
I suspected that's where it went wrong for you (as it almost did for me). I didn't notice the Kill Bill score but if I had I may also have stopped there. I'm glad I didn't though. :smile:
 
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I suspected that's where it went wrong for you (as it almost did for me). I didn't notice the Kill Bill score but if I had I may also have stopped there. I'm glad I didn't though. :smile:
I've never been a big Quentin Tarantino fan.
 
IMDB seems to agree episode 5 was the bee's knees of the season. Did y'all get that far?
 
Ironically, I think E05 is the best of them all. Then the silly ones I meantioned came and in the end the quality increases again....

EDIT: Oh, I misunderstood the "bees knees" idiom. But yes. That and the 2 last ones are "the bees knees".

EDIT2: The Matrix has nothing one that particular episode. (Also, it's 1.6 1.9 GB! For a cartoon episode!)
 
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sbrothy said:
[Loads rifle and kills a person who tried to trick him]

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As I said: Even the antagonists are so hardcore you can't help but root for them!
As I said, it's hard to not also root for the antagonists because they are so fascinatingly evil! :smile:

Here's the clip I quoted above. I think I got away with it better this time. I'll only be there 2 days and it is just a clip.



EDIT: Hehe, "You want his thumbs?". That one only makes sense if you've seen another episode.
 
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I like the symbolism inherent in Fowler stepping on the bow after the "extrajudicial" killing.
EDIT: They thought it through.
 
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I watched this a couple years ago and really enjoyed it.
Then you'll be happy that they promised another season, but the ending kind of hinted at that.
 
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And BTW, I though I publicly posted this recommendation but I think I only proffered it to @AlexB23.

"Twilight of the Gods"

It's only one season and a completely different style. I enjoyed it though (Not nearly as much as BES but still).
 
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sbrothy said:
And BTW, I though I publicly posted this recommendation but I think I only proffered it to @AlexB23.

"Twilight of the Gods"

It's only one season and a completely different style. I enjoyed it though (Not nearly as much as BES but still).
Thank you. I am not much a fan of adult animation, but I could give it a go
 
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Ironically, an "old" town in the US is perhaps 300 years old. The town I live in is called "Odense" (literally: "Odin's Town"). In 1980 it's "birthday" was celebrated, as >1000 years old, which I think is a ballpark value...
 
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Ironically, an "old" town in the US is perhaps 300 years old. The town I live in is called "Odense" (literally: "Odin's Town"). In 1980 it's "birthday" was celebrated, as >1000 years old, which I think is a ballpark value...
Wow, that is a really old town.
 
If you haven't already seen the western series 1883 on Netflix i implore you to. There a so many harcore scenes where people get a gun in their face but instead I'll just leave you with this so you can see it can do the real deal too:



Again it'll be here 2 days. Do yourself a favor and watch this one.

EDIT: I like the absolutely correct amount of sorrow in his voice.

EDIT2: I must admit I'm not sure it's Netflix anymore. MTV perhaps? Anyway. My opinion stands: it's epic cinema.

EDIT3: "Then I'll let her see it; t'was her dream. And then I'm gonna see her."

Claude Shannon would've been proud of the amount of information crammed into that last sentence.
 
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sbrothy said:
Ironically, an "old" town in the US is perhaps 300 years old. The town I live in is called "Odense" (literally: "Odin's Town"). In 1980 it's "birthday" was celebrated, as >1000 years old, which I think is a ballpark value...

I actually don't know how this weird fact sneaked in here, but I looked it up just to make sure I wasn't lying. Turned out I was, but very much in the opposite direction:

Odense is one of Denmark's oldest cities. Archaeological excavations in the vicinity show proof of settlement for over 4,000 years since at least the Stone Age. The earliest community was centred on the higher ground between the Odense River to the south and Naesbyhoved Lake (now dry) to the north. Nonnebakken, one of Denmark's former Viking ring fortresses, lay to the south of the river. Today, Odense's Møntergården Museum has many artefacts related to the early Viking history in the Odense area. The Vikings built numerous fortifications along the river banks to defend it against invaders coming in from the coast.

Canute IV of Denmark, generally considered to be the last Viking king, was murdered by unruly peasants in Odense in 1086. The city celebrated its thousandth anniversary in 1988, commemorating the first mention of the town's name in a letter dated 18 March 988 from the German emperor Otto III which granted rights to
Odense and neighbouring settlements.
---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odense

Sorry. Couldn't hold it in.
 
I know I'm annoying with my unsolicited recommendations. The reason I like 1883 is not for it's classic macho moments although there are lots of those, but for exatcly the character driven development. People die, people cry, friends and enemies are found in strange places:



So yeah, I'll shut up up now.