Desperate about Nyquist Diagrams

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The discussion revolves around the plotting of Nyquist diagrams, particularly in the context of control engineering. Participants seek clarification on how to create these diagrams from transfer functions or Bode diagrams, expressing frustration over the lack of clear resources and explanations available online.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for detailed guidance on plotting Nyquist diagrams and requests step-by-step explanations.
  • Several participants provide links to external resources, although one participant indicates that these resources have not been helpful.
  • Another participant explains that a Nyquist plot involves plotting the function G(jω) by converting the transfer function G(s) to G(jω) and plotting the resulting complex numbers in the complex plane using polar coordinates.
  • A participant questions the domain for plotting, asking about the range of frequencies and how to determine the spacing and limits for the plot.
  • One participant suggests that the domain should range from 0 Hz to infinity Hz, but emphasizes that the judgment on how many points to plot and their spacing is subjective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best methods or resources for plotting Nyquist diagrams, with some expressing confusion and others providing differing levels of detail in their explanations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specifics of the plotting process, including the choice of frequency range and the number of points to plot, indicating a lack of clarity in the available resources.

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Hi everyone! I searched all over the web and nobody/nothing gives a good explanation on how to plot nyquist diagrams... can somebody help with these ? I can't go forward in my study of control engineering without knowing these and I'm stucked...

How are nyquist diagrams plotted starting from a transfer function or from bode diagrams?

Can somebody explain in a detailed way or link me a site where it's explained step by step ?

Thank you
 
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How about this link:

http://mmae.iit.edu/~mpeet/Classes/MMAE443/443Lecture23.pdf
 
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A nyquist plot is simply plotting the whole function G(jω).

You have G(s) => G(jω), and then for each ω, you plot the resulting complex number in the complex plain. Normally this is done by using a polar plot, where instead of x and y (or Re and I am in the complex plain), we use r (the distance from origin to the point) and θ (the angle of the line from origin to that point, measured from the real axis of course, and counter-clockwise).

Now for a complex number, the r is simply the magnitude of the number, and θ is the phase.

So for the function G(jω), you simply plot each result as an r and θ. That is, you look at mag(G) and angle(G), and the you plot that.
 
I already viewed even that link but cannot understand... ok i understand that I'm plotting G(jω) but what is the domain ? how much i havef to draw ? how can i know from which module to which module e from which fase to which fase ? Isn't there some place where this is well explained ?
 
The domain goes from f=0 Hz to f=∞ Hz, you make your own judgement on how many points to plot and their spacing.

http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/mastascu/econtrolhtml/Freq/Freq6.html

Oops. Someone has already posted that link.
 

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