How can I refresh my memory of physics before starting my master's program?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of retaining knowledge in physics after completing a bachelor's degree, particularly in preparation for a master's program. Participants share their experiences with forgetting concepts and formulas, and explore strategies for refreshing their memory and enhancing retention.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration over forgetting material learned during their bachelor's degree, questioning whether this is a common experience.
  • Others argue that forgetting is normal and that relearning can be easier, especially if one has previously understood the material.
  • A participant mentions that using knowledge in practical problems helps extend memory retention.
  • Some suggest that writing notes in one's own words and explaining concepts to others can improve memory retention.
  • There are differing views on the extent of forgetting, with one participant stating they forget very little, while others report significant memory loss.
  • Participants discuss the idea that forgetting can lead to a renewed enjoyment of learning when revisiting material.
  • One participant compares learning mathematics to practicing a musical instrument, suggesting that skills can be regained with practice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that forgetting is a common issue and that relearning can be beneficial. However, there are competing views on the extent of forgetting and the effectiveness of different strategies for retention.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific strategies for memory retention, such as making notes and explaining concepts, but the effectiveness of these strategies may vary among individuals. There is also an acknowledgment that the process of forgetting can be influenced by the context in which knowledge is applied.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from undergraduate to graduate studies in physics or related fields, as well as those interested in strategies for retaining complex information over time.

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The past June I got my physics degree and because I was working on an important research project on graphenes and had some unexpected results, I wasn't sure If I would finish it on time. Thus, I made my applications for master in the summer and got accepted in Utrecht university for the theoretical physics master (my intention is to follow the path of theoretical condensed matter with computer simulations). The master is starting next in September next year and I will be working till that time (non-physics related job).

My problem is I keep forgetting things I learned in my bachelor and it's so frustrating.Is this normal? My plan is to read classical mechanics/electrodynamics and quantum theory till next September and maybe also prepare myself for quantum field theory and quantum statistical theory. Any suggestions are welcome :) .
 
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I think it's perfectly normal.
If i learn something by heart i forgot nearly everything in 2-14 days.

If I'm trying to understand something and achieve my goal i forgot it sooner or later anyway. But after i forget it, it easier to understand it again.

Using something i understood in problems greatly extends period in which i remember what i had understood.

there is a simple rule - if i don't find something useful, i forget it really fast. But there's nothing wrong in that - why should i remember things, that aren't useful :>
 
Grieverheart said:
My problem is I keep forgetting things I learned in my bachelor and it's so frustrating.Is this normal?

It certainly is. Last week a colleague asked me a few questions about some results in a paper. I realized that I didn't understand quite the results because I had forgotten some of the theory behind it.
It was one of my own papers, I wrote it about three years ago:rolleyes:

The point is that you are not expected to remember everything you learn, especially if you are not reading about or working in that field for a while. But hopefully you'll remember the fundamentals as well as WHERE (not only in which book but more importantly in which context) you can find the information you'll need. It is also much easier to learn something the second time around.

The story above is true, but the part I left out was that it only took me about 30 minutes to re-read (my own) paper and check a couple of details in one of my books before I was able to answer the questions my colleague had asked me.
 
I forget almost nothing of what I learn, I find it really strange how people can forget as much as they do. How is it even possible to function properly when you forget that much?
 
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But hopefully you'll remember the fundamentals as well as WHERE (not only in which book but more importantly in which context) you can find the information you'll need. It is also much easier to learn something the second time around.

that's a pretty good point. I often end up forgetting formulas, as basic as trig inverse integration. But i know how it looks like so when i see a problem which has one or which requires it's usage, all i have to do is lookup for the formula.

forgetting formulas is even worse in Physics, i can't keep track of all of them, quite frankly i never did. But often I'm able to regenerate them or at least (like you said) know where to find it and in what context to use one.
 
If you don't use it, you lose it. But relearning is easier if you learned it once already.
 
Forgetting is a big problem for me too. I figure out something and after a couple of days/weeks I have to figure out the same thing again. Lots of time wasted. I started sending myself emails so I didn't have figure out twice.
I found out that I remember things better when I write them down in my own words. So make notes of fundamental things in your field.
Better yet, try to explain it to yourself or a friend or a class. You'll surely remember.
When you are explaining it to yourself, ask yourself why is it this way, why that way. It'll help.
I used to be surprised at how my boss could remember so many different concepts and specifications. Things are connected in a way or he finds a way to connect them.
 
Personally, if I've used something multiple times in the past, and if i have gotten to fully understand what is going on, then even if, at the present time, i cannot remember the formulas/stuff, directly and how it's done, i have no difficulty at all to derive everything from scratch. For example, if some time passes, i cannot remember how to take the derivatives of some functions or integrate a couple others, or trig identities, or many other stuff of this kind. But, i never find any difficulties deriving these things from scratch. In other words, as long as you have a pretty good understanding of the general idea behind something, i don't think you should have difficulties in filling in the details.
 
Thanks for the replies. It is true that when I check the books, I begin remembering stuff quite quickly. It's sad it works like this for other things too, like sports, playing a music instrument or drawing. I guess my frustration mostly comes from the fact that concentrating on something makes you forget something else. Hm, this may have sounded a bit childish. Anyways, thanks for your help again.
 
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Grieverheart said:
Hm, this may have sounded a bit childish.
Nah. The childish thing would be to just assume that you're stupid and give up in frustration.
 
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Look at the bright side - once you forget something, you can re-enjoy learning it again!
 
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My professor told me (while working on my mathematics degree) Mathematics is like playing the violin. Practice make's perfect, stop practicing and you have some catch up to do to find the skills hidden in your brain. You don't lose it permanently you just need to find it.
 

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