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I understand that they have done [tex]\displaystyle\sum_{r=k-1}^{2k} r =\sum_{r=1}^{2k}r - \sum_{r=1}^{k-1-1}r[/tex]

But where did r = 1 come from as r = k-1 before is what I don't understand.

Also this question:

Show that [tex]\displaystyle\sum_{p=3}^{n}(4p+5) = (2n+11)(n-2)[/tex]
[tex]\displaystyle4\sum_{p=1}^{n}p + 5\sum_{p=1}^{n}1 = ...[/tex]

How do you go from p=3 to p=1
 
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synkk said:
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I understand that they have done [tex]\displaystyle\sum_{r=k-1}^{2k} r =\sum_{r=1}^{2k}r - \sum_{r=1}^{k-1-1}r[/tex]

But where did r = 1 come from as r = k-1 before is what I don't understand.

I'll break this down to simple numbers, but the same logic applies for your problem.

Lets say you are asked for the sum [itex]3+4+5[/itex]. Doing this in summation form, you could add the numbers from 1 to 2 i.e [itex]1+2[/itex] and subtract it from the sum of 1 to 5, i.e [itex]1+2+3+4+5[/itex], which gives you the same result.

Other way of seeing this is, say you are asked to find the sum [itex]S[/itex]. You introduce another quantity [itex]Q[/itex] such that you know the value of [itex]S+Q[/itex] and [itex]Q[/itex]. Subtracting these known values, you can find [itex]S[/itex].
 
Infinitum said:
I'll break this down to simple numbers, but the same logic applies for your problem.

Lets say you are asked for the sum [itex]3+4+5[/itex]. Doing this in summation form, you could add the numbers from 1 to 2 i.e [itex]1+2[/itex] and subtract it from the sum of 1 to 5, i.e [itex]1+2+3+4+5[/itex], which gives you the same result.

Other way of seeing this is, say you are asked to find the sum [itex]S[/itex]. You introduce another quantity [itex]Q[/itex] such that you know the value of [itex]S+Q[/itex] and [itex]Q[/itex]. Subtracting these known values, you can find [itex]S[/itex].

I can see how it applies to the first question, but not second going from p=3 to p=1 makes no sense to me.
 
synkk said:
I can see how it applies to the first question, but not second going from p=3 to p=1 makes no sense to me.

Well, the second question is wrong. Or you might not have read it properly.

That's why I didn't include it in my quote :-p
 
@ Infinitum, wait, really? Because Wolfram Alpha and I both got the provided answer...

@ synkk: [itex]\displaystyle \sum_{p=1}^{n} 4p + 5 = \displaystyle \sum_{p=1}^{2} 4p + 5 + \displaystyle \sum_{p=3}^{n} 4p+5[/itex]
 
got it guys thanks
 
professordad said:
@ Infinitum, wait, really? Because Wolfram Alpha and I both got the provided answer...

The summation you are trying to prove is of course correct. What's wrong is...

[tex]\displaystyle\sum_{p=3}^{n}(4p+5) = \displaystyle4\sum_{p=1}^{n}p + 5\sum_{p=1}^{n}1[/tex]