Starting Over: Tales of Rebuilding from the Bottom

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of starting over in life, particularly from a position of homelessness and financial instability. A participant shares their experience of arriving in Calgary with minimal resources and highlights the difficulties of finding employment without a stable living situation, proper clothing, or access to basic necessities. The conversation touches on the inadequacies of social services and welfare systems, which often complicate the path to re-employment rather than facilitate it. Participants express concern about the stigma associated with welfare recipients and the barriers they face in securing housing and jobs. Suggestions include exploring social support options, considering alternative employment avenues like street performance or writing, and the importance of addressing mental health issues. The dialogue emphasizes the complexity of overcoming societal obstacles and the need for understanding and compassion towards those in similar predicaments.
  • #61
Originally posted 12/01 by Moi
As for the Prime Minster 'Whomping my Butt' at law, Humm, well he is 69 years old, been a Politician for Fourty (40) years, I am 48*[/color] so I was Eight years old (8)*[/color] when this guy started out his career in the 'crafting', and 'enacting', and 'adminstrating' of the "Living Tree of the Law", so when it comes to 'Legal knowledge", if he can't "Whomp my Butt" somethings wrong!
(Sans SNIP/SNoP as I cite myself...)

*[/color] Wrote this Monday, had biked 'out and back' to the tent, twice, on Friday, missed the only meal on Saturday, cause of Friday's rain, Sat's snow, then Ate Sunday evening, (first that day) biked 'in and out', then biked in Monday (tired, walked a little) and had noticed late Monday that I had experianced some "Head Rushes" from in-adequate dietary intake...not enough food, affects the brains workings, so I slipped at the age thing, then again, generally, my mind tends to start thinking of my approaching age change well before it happens.

(as to acclimatize myself to the change?)
 
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  • #62
So let's see, recent history, Biking in the snow and the rain, of recent, driving blizzard the other day and I had to go back to the tent to get the "laundry" off of the line, ("laundry" here means wet blankets) as the field had had opportunity to freeze, (the ground froze) after we had had some rain, so the rain that fell after the 'freezing' couldn't penetrate the saturated 'frozen' ground, and resulted in a slight flooding of my tent, wetting the 'bedroll' that I keep there.

It got colder again so everything froze, (the wet blankets) but the wind , with the stuff out on the line, will subliminate the ice out of the blanket ("freeze drying") and I will eventually get back to drier apparatus and the aditional bonus of the possibility that the freeze drying of the 'items' might result in a lower, (or a ridance{?}) of the mold that has been a plague to the air in the tent, for some time now.

I'll tell again, as I have said it before, it you don't think that air resistence counts? ride a bicycle! Want some really good exercise (that stimulates circulation!) as to enhance cranial performance? Ride a bicycle...in the snowbank! InTo the Wind!

YAAAAAAAAHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHO![/size]

Gotta go back out there again, sort of daily ritual of riding a bike (as long as it holds up, in winter's abusive 'clime) as I haven't gotten anything really dry yet. The forecast for the Kingston area includes a rising temperature that is coming with rain, so I "bagged" all of the stuff in the tent, sort of in plastic, and hope that, if it floods, again, that the frozen blanket (that I cracked in two to get into the bag, yesterday) doesn't get even futher wet.

Least I don't need to ride in the snowbank, the sides of the roads are cleared now, (takes a day) and aside from that I have "shelter time" so inside, in a bed, breathing warm air (like everyone else) while I sleep...in a room with 'X' other people...
 
  • #63
update?

Well, been out, (and back) 'couple' more times, frozen Blanket in a bag becomes wet blanket in a plastic bag, noting that the humidity in the tent now seems less then outside (cause it's raining outside) and the humidity that develops on the inside of the tents sides is still "wetting my back".

Forecasts are sort of 'cold' now, 'warming', but 'raining...coming', so no chance to dry out anything, and no real opportunity to get it to a washing machine, least not yet...(Uggh the smell!)

Gotta go, (back out too) make sure it doesn't collapse under the weight of any snow that falls, cause it will...
 
  • #64
You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..
 
  • #65
Originally posted by Monique
You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..
Thanks for the concern, but I am in a shelter at present.
(Mentioned that, above...)*[/color]

The reason for the tent report is because that is where I need return sooner or later, that and all of my clothing (what little I have left is there) so it is getting "aromatisized" (self generating at this point) and 'whatever else' occurs in all of the shifting temperatures, (soon to occur, again) and today I need to go back out (maybe) to remove the snow that is falling...ever live in a shelter with X + other people?? Not exactly the "social situation" that I had been, from my life's history, accustomed to...nevermind the one(s) who would wish to use this opportunity to 'force' themselves upon me as "My friend(s)"...how do you tell people that you do NOT want to talk, without talking?

EDIT *[/color]Ooops! thought I had mentioned it before, guess not...sorry
 
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  • #66
Just came in from walking around, found out today (as I haven't been keeping up with the schedule changes) that there is NO food today, nor tomorrow, and probably not for the day after that too, but I don't know that far ahead just yet.

The early (AM) meal only returns on the 5 of Jan, the other place, I haven't a clue what has happened there...Hummm this oughtabe fun!

P.S. (Don't worry...it really doesn't help...worrieing, that is) I'll know better tomorrow, I guess(?)!*%
 
  • #67
Ahhh got food at the shelter, and cereal this morning, so it ain't so bad..so far...

Wanted to tell it yesterday, Happy New Years, but two sort of problems, one is that if I celebrate all of the festivals/rituals/religous ceremonial events that are available in a year, well, it is every day, all of the time, the other was the timing of it in conjunction with telling you I wasn't finding food.

I had wanted to tell you it yesterday cause I wanted you to realize that in my character I could still do that, even in light of that kind of news, in my own life, cause that kind of news isn't really all that bad it's is still not a death sentence, plus respecting everyone else's right to still enjoy their own lives, is kinda nicer, I think/thought...just had wondered if I cuold have pulled out the emotive in type, looked inside and found it, just didn't try typing it out cause of the other restraints upon me, presently.

Yikes is this looong...not "Instant Messaging" now is it..."Sup?"/
 
  • #68
Originally posted by Artman
Along the lines that Monique just said, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? I've read several of your posts. You can write, and your experiences on the street could make for interesting reading.
J.K. Rowling, the woman who wrote "Harry Potter" was divorced and living on public assistance when she outlined the entire H.P. series.
I know that her story is the exception, not the rule, but writing would be a productive use of your time until some other avenue opens for you.
Sorry for the looooong wait for a responce (musta missed this one) but have done that already, back in 1991 and that is what precipitated some of the problems that ensuied...

But what I had recently noticed (in Canadian News) was the police Raid on a reporters home, and all of the newspeople, up in arms about "their Rights", how their right to report on the things that the government does, that are wrong, and how they and there sources are to be protected...Weeeehoo is this a reek of double duplicity if I ever had to tolerate a maloderous aroma, the stench of "We protect you, so protect us" just arises from the kinds of discourse that comes out of events like this, and all the while I get to remember the Person on the Phone whom, after I had explained a little of just what it was that I had accomplished, asked me "Oh and what's newsworthy about that?" ahhh how I would like to send in the Swat team to raid that idiots brain (not really) see if there is anything there other then the ongoing Conspiracy of Canadian society to further my imprisonment and my deprivation of accreditation by willful Ignorance...and they wonder why I end up in the place where I want to tell people how much is SUCKS to live in this country...(The {Imagined/heard} retort: Oh no! you can't say that! just look at all you get, you get to eat and you get to stay in shelters and stay warm, why aren't you grateful?)

BTW that is what had been going on in my life, a form of 'Identity theft', and it is now in the hands of the "Representatives of The poeples of Canada", and they do...? (Nothing!)

It's been in their Hands before, offical, legal complaint,...politic'd
 
  • #69
Mr Robin Parsons, can you fill me in on the missing information prior to the first post on this thread?

You really are an enigma...
 
  • #70
You mean the 43 years prior?
 
  • #71
You really shouldn't get him started Evo. I got into trouble just for trying to find out what this enigma was all about.
 
  • #73
Lets see, served My own country, ~30 million people, Apparently, by The Grace of God, and the Queen of England, served in more places in the World then I could Name...And if you look in todays edition of the local newspaper (Kingston Whig standard) you will see, front page, a picture of one of the Homeless people that I shelter with, his second (recent) appearance in the local paper, and in respect of what I had mentioned (the post) above, concerning journalists wanting their rights (to keep their sources private) respected because it is a defense of the Rights of All of the citizens in the Country, that a FREE PRESS reports (tattles) on the member(s) of the Government who don't behave/act/re-act properly with respect to their obligations concerning citizen interactions, and the very clear BIAS/PREDJUDICE that is being excersized against myself (by WAAAAAY more then just the local paper as I have tried with MANY Canadian News Organizations) that is aiding and abetting the 'government' to remove, and strip, from me, my right to choose for myself, well, anyone can figure out how something like this, if it was going on in your life, would PISS YOU OFF (just a {little} bit) right?
 
  • #74
Humm apparently the guy who was in the paper yesterday, got something like four (4) offers of assistance...me, Ha, couldn't even get the legal system to function without (Social) prejudice, in what I had attempted to pursue to have some of what was going on, in the past of my life, stopped, it didn't work, cause I was lied to, again, and again, and again, and at this point, it seems that their is NO ONE, (else, aside from me) in the Entirety of this country, who feels/thinks they have an Iota of responcibility towards me...what a crock of...(deleted)...What a clear misrepresentation of the people of this country, by the representation/representatives of this country NO reflection at all...then again it is a social conspiracy so there are "Canadian citizens" (other then just the politicians) involved, deeply...

Just to keep certain things clear, the Supreme Court of Canada Acknowledged what they could, in the manner that they the Justices are allowed, or permitted, to acknowledge such things (their hands are 'handcuffed' behind their respective backs) inasmuch as the acknowledged reciept of My envoy of my "Opinion" as that is all that they are permitted to do, inasmuch as it was/is the subjective attestament of one person, and cannot be acredited, By them, in any other manner...it befalls the Rest of the Federal Government of Canada to pick up the trail and finish the Job...just that, they profit more from keeping me un-known, after all, it is information that I have, that is important, and precious, and that is much easier to steal then any material object, all you need to steal is the accreditation for being the Origin of the message...steal the messengers credentials and the messenger is no longer known as such, (I have been "kept hidden" longer then most of you will ever know...) someone supplants them...

This all really (expletives deleted, respect for PF, and it's readers)!
 
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  • #75
Interesting to me, the last number of years in my life, can't even do anything to help myself past working for someone else, can't start out to work for myself cause any time I do I need to contact "someone" (whomever) and that starts it out all over agin, "Who is this guy?" "how come nobodies ever heard of him before" followed by either, they "cannot help", or watch it 'fly out the window' of the inability to prove anything, absent of having a reliable witness (Ha hahahahahahaha) nearby (hee heheheheheheheheeeee) and "it's a gone befores I knows", it's done! (but I can tell that it has been made gonzo...ain't that stupid, even if the liars that have lied to me, (that I knew where lieing to me, so I didn't tell them that I knew) kept up with the lies, ergo fooled themselves Big TIME! into thinking..."He doesn't know"...Shhhh, "don't tell anyone", "Yes! he does!")

Gotta be one of the most comical of things to watch people intentionally ignore something that keeps attracting their attention, un-intentionally, as well...(sometimes, intentionally other times...past...)
 
  • #76
Oh yes, (BTW) "they" have been 'predicting' my imminent demise (2 to 5 years) for the last ten to fifteen (10 - 15) years...so

There is an enormity of things that "they" do, and do not, know, about what really goes on, with me, but I can assure you, some, simply attempt to use 'whatever' they can, against me, no matter what...others have helped, so it isn't simply all bad or one sided...but the helpers have been waaaaaay fewer then the agressors Ahem!
 
  • #77
Hummm one of the other items on the list Paradoxical comedy...the idea that I should, while I am awaiting 'the' (or any) sign of intelligent movement on behalf of the federal Governement of Canada, well, they would like it if I quit smoking...Humm, to quit smoking one of the things that is greatly assistant (and beneficial) is an absence of stressors, tensions and or DISTRACTIONS...humm, this all awaiting any kind of resolution is a GREAT distraction, potetnial for stress and most inportantly, especially the way they like to play this, that they keep you in the dark and un-informed, (to the best of their abilities) generates Anxiety and as anyone who has studied these things to any degree should very well know anxiety and depression are currently thought to the the initiators of smoking in the first place.

Dealing with me, by absenting yourself (from dealing with anything...the cowards method) and hiding simply exacerbates the situation and basically assures that quiting smoking would be even harder for me due to the un-due un-warranted un-needed un-earned stresses and anxieties that this kind of willful ignorance can generate...No I don't really suffer the anxiety that I used to have as a child, Ya learn over time, (just that I seem to still have some Huge gossip {idiot} attempting "story control" on me, ergo they will tell you "why I act the way I do", it will "look" like it, but it is nothing more then them fooling you...and you falling for it, in ignorance! and absence! of any kind of fact verification due to them telling you "not to tell me" {about them, I already know!} as to keep them in "story" control...this is a gossip! nothing more, a malicious! and abusive! gossip!, so stop aiding and abetting them!) and it has followed, in my life, the quitting drinking, and the ceasation of the 'other' stuff...absence of distractors and anxiety inducements would, simply, assist...anyone could figure this out, the government already should be smart enough to recognize the consequences of their own actions right? they should realize that their inaction is simply one of the things that furthers the time of my smoking cause it ain't something I am going to move up on the list to attempt to resolve without this other situation being resolved first, way to much possibility for anxiety stress and simply the distractions of the mind as I have a need of this being resolved...dislike unfinished business...

Anyways, shows that the government is working against it's on better ends, sort of like 'them' sitting back, and awaiting me suing them, planning failures and planning to make a real dirty ugly mess out of something that was simply nicely done and assistive to the entire Country, and all simply to play (Liberal) 'party' politics, not a lick of the "Countries Best interests" at hand/heart/mind...NOTHING!

Just passed the three year aniversery mark, Jan 29, Sucks to live in this country, willfully ignorant specious observers clearly intentionally acting in a manner that is contrary to just about every principal of good government and democratic rule that you could think of, just that, well, most Canadians don't know right, ha, ha, ha, not as much as they would like you to think...country full of willful conspirators...don't give a damn who they screw...

P.S. Have you noticed how much of an issue "homelessness" has become lately in Canada? do you wonder why...?
 
  • #78
how do you afford to buy cigarettes?
 
  • #79
Originally posted by jimmy p
how do you afford to buy cigarettes?
With difficulty, to say the least...don't buy them actually (and I don't steal them either!) but it's not a good topic, you figure?...

That question did arise in the interviews with the homeless, recently, here in Kingston, apparently they responded to a letter to the editor that asked the same question, of one of the guys, in one of the pictures, as he had had a smoke in his hand, one that the camera man (someone like that, from 'the crew') had apparently bought for him... they are apparently in a local forum, through the local newspaper "Kingston Whig Standard" here in Kingston, in the feedback section, but I haven't read any of it...
 
  • #80
So the product is thought, hence vulnerable to abuse by knowledge, thereof, such that it is effectively taken as It is presented immediately in a way, (Insert {GSS} GIANT SUCKING SOUND!) so the people here would like me to believe that they have ignored me due to: #1) They Like me and #2) is that it is being done "For the Good Of the Country!" hence we discover that the accessories 'at the fact' are, actually, with their above reasons(ing)(ings), aiding and abetting the GSS!...

Humm...

I have to go now, some "friends" of mine have donated some Cigarette butts to me, so I can empty out what is left of the tabacco, and re-roll them, to smoke...Thanks, BYE.
 
  • #81
Oh yes, BTW not everyone is guilty of abusing me, not even close, most people's experiancing of me is small, lots of times stuff is given and 'nothing' is the price, (other then the memory) it's been done "freely"...just that, as you begin to approach the root of the problem, well, that became what it was, is it still? (Trust?...No!) (proof? un-needed!) and has waaaaay led to the present situation, plus...

Perhaps you would notice my penchant for time, after all, mine, not unlike yours, is limited...

Where does having "The Right" come from?, well...simple, you earn it!

Now where is that piece of paper?...Huh??...
 
  • #82
...and the other one, the other day, the Government of Canada is going to "Underpromise and Overpay" (something like that) works really, really well in my life, cause God is the one who has helped me to know that I have enough of the answer to safely be confident enough to admit to it, (or at least to admitting to it as my opinion) hence the appearance of "underpromise" thereafter clearly the overpayment inasmuch as, in explaining it, more comes out (God's Grace!) more then I knew I had, so it ends up appearing as "overpaid"...but that is NO WAY to run a government!
(unless you can prove God is helping you, specifically, as proven by the overpayment, that wasn't there when you made your underestimate...God's Grace I can get away with that...cause, as I clearly keep telling all of you, it is By God's Grace!...and you?)
 
  • #83
Heck, if anyone had "bothered" to respond, perhaps the government could have been spared the embarrassment(?)...
 
  • #84
I don't understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain!
 
  • #85
Originally posted by jimmy p
I don't understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain!
I read about it in the newspapers, it, apparently, (acording to the paper I saw) was in the 'Canadian Throne Speech'...heres a Search link that brngs you newspaper reports on it...but you will need find the specific words yourself...
O.K.?

*HERE*
 
  • #86
Hummm, now I need to go look for that newspaper, that I saw that stated (statement) in...oye!
 
  • #87


Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
So apparently some of the people herein (1? zoob) think that all I have to do is "get a job" which tells me that some of you haven't a clue what it is like to "start back up", from the bottom.

Having arrived in Calgary with $35.00 in my pocket, the clothes on my back, a tent, backpack with change of pants, top(2), shorts and underwear, (no socks!) bout as much as I could carry on a bicycle, I started back up from the bottom, at 43 years of age so's I probably have a better idea of what the problems are, then any of you.

Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.

BTW what I did for my country, and it's resultant use around the World, the apparent savings, to the Canadian peoples, of Approx $40,000,000.00 dollars, the redeeming of the legislation from the pit that is was 'perhaps' about to be thrown into, again, hence the assitance in the protection of the children of Canada, are all rendered meaningless by the current Government, so don't wonder 'why' I would rather "do nothing" then give anything to them ever again.

(By extension so am I!, {Rendered meaningless/worthless/useless} But No, I do NOT feel that way, so don't be stupid, it is simply an acceptance of the clearly expressed belief and practise of/by others)

P.S. if you would wish to start, well, I presently live in a tent, have no money, a bicycle, (and I am 47 now!) and basically nothing else...so, GO for IT!

you must have a computer and electricity and maybe a phone line to go online or how else could you post??
 
  • #88
From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...

Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the Canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?

It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good?
 
  • #89
Originally posted by Mattius_
From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...
Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the Canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?
It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good?
Something about working earning an income living a life that is not one of poverty and sufferance needlessly inasmuch as the ability to contribute is NOT something that I should be letting anyone else take credit for as then they would be accreditd at tsomehting they, in truth didn't do, and I end up participating in their lie...not really something I want to do, if it isn't something that I willingly (in accordance with God's will) gave away to them...

It would help me to get a better job, not that that is very viable at this point in time, once they try to make you famous by using word of mouth, (only) sad, and disgusting, what begins to happen to you when Other people dream you are going to be "Rich", (with money) they beset you for whatever they can, and when they find out you have no money, they attempt to punish you for that too...

Aside from which why in the world should I have to suffer needlessly for the common good, (For some other idiots ego!?) my suffering is NOT for the Common good, it is demonstrative of the Government NOT adhereing to it's required principals in it's interactivity with it's people, it's stated objectives in rule of the Country.

You tell me, serve 30 million people, donate and give away a piece of work that is a part of better then 40 years of your lifes learning, and watch others take accreditation for your work, watch as it is used to serve more places on the planet then you can name, and watch as others take credit for your work, again...that has gone on for more then ten years now, this was a place that I figured that their was just no way I could get Robbed again, certainly NOT right in front of the Supreme Court of Canada, but...
 
  • #90
Just so we keep some of this clear, originaly, Waaaaaay back, I had told the "Government" that I had wanted this to remain PRIVATE, all of it, including their (required) responce to me, cause what I am missing is the ability to Independantly prove that I have done this.

The press worries that the Courts wording of recognition of "my opinion" leaves it too open, to stand alone as a proof, what the other side of the "Twin Towers" of Government (the system used, here in Canada, is seen as "Twin Towers", {Adjudication of law, and Writting [proscribing] of law} in the US it is "Three Branches") has a responcibility to recognize, even if only PRIVATELY, as to ensure that the LEGAL History of the Country, is properly told...that is also one of the very reasons why Members of Parliament are given the protections, from lieing, in the parliament, so that the Truth of it can still come out, without legal recriminations against them, it is to take away the "Fear of the consequences of their Honesty" as only an 'Honest Government' has the 'Right' to Govern, it is also relevant to them 'upholding and maintaining' their individual, and collective, Rights to the Title of "Honorable" Person(s)...something that really isn't what I think of certain ones...but that too, is only a "personal opinion"...

...does that help?

EDIT the other thing that I, personally, note is the absence of support for independant thought...complete and total absence of any willingness to support independant thought...and that, independant thought, is what brought them the answer that served, in the World, so well...no even so little as a word...just willfully ignorant silence when they owe the responce, even if only to tell me "NO!"...
 
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