Chemistry Grade 11 - CuSO4 hydrous/anhydrous help

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The discussion revolves around a chemistry lab involving the calculation of water content in hydrated salts, specifically focusing on magnesium sulfate (MgSO4) and calcium chloride (CaCl2). Participants are seeking assistance with calculations related to the percent of water, moles of water removed, and the formulas for the hydrated salts.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the process for calculating the percent of water in hydrated MgSO4 by finding the difference in mass between the hydrous and anhydrous states.
  • Another participant suggests using the molar mass of water to calculate the number of moles of water removed and the moles of anhydrous MgSO4 remaining.
  • There is a mention that the formula for hydrated MgSO4 can be expressed as MgSO4.nH2O, where n is an integer that needs to be determined.
  • For the second part involving CaCl2, similar calculations are proposed, emphasizing the need to find the mass difference to determine the mass of water absorbed.
  • A later reply questions how to find the integer value 'n' for the hydrated salts.
  • Another participant notes that the experimental ratio for 'n' may not be exactly an integer due to the existence of multiple hydrates and the influence of temperature and humidity on the composition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods for calculating the percent of water and determining the formulas for the hydrated salts, but there is uncertainty regarding the exact integer value of 'n' and the variability in hydrated salt compositions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the experimental determination of 'n' may not yield an exact integer due to the presence of multiple hydrate forms and environmental factors affecting the results.

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hello I am in grade 11 chemistry and I am doing a coppersulfate lab. Please help!

ok these are the lab questions. My friends and i have been stuck on it for a whole period and afterschool and I am not really sure what I am doing.

1. A hydrates MGSO4 salt, weighing 3.211g, is heated until reaching a constant weight. The weight of the anhydrous MgSO4 is 1.570g.

a)Calculate the percent of water in the hydrated salt.

b)Calculate the moles of water removed and the moles of anhydrous MgSO4 remaining.

c) What is the formula for the hydrated MGSO4?


2. Anhydrous CaCl2 is used to remove water from the air within a dessicator and forms a hydrated salt. A 16.43 of anhydrous CaCl2 weighed 21.75g after being left ina dessicator for several months. What is the formula of the hydrated CaCl2?


Please show all your steps clearly, imm soo bad at chemistry =(

thanks a lot! =)
 
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1. A hydrates MGSO4 salt, weighing 3.211g, is heated until reaching a constant weight. The weight of the anhydrous MgSO4 is 1.570g.

Well one mass is for the hydrous state (with H2O) and the other mass is for the anhydous state - so the difference must be the mass of water.

So, assuming % is % by weight (or mass), find the % of water in hydrated MgSO4.

The number of moles, n, is found by dividing the mass by the molar mass - hint: molecular mass of water.

Then the formula for hydrated Mg sulfate is just MgSO4.nH2O, where n is usually an integer. You will also need the number of moles of MgSO4, so that n is an integer.

In part 2 - A 16.43 of anhydrous CaCl2 weighed 21.75g after being left ina dessicator for several months. What is the formula of the hydrated CaCl2?

Same approach as part 1. The difference in mass is the mass of water. Determine moles of water and CaCl2, and write a formula where the number of moles, n, of water is an integer.
 
Astronuc said:
Well one mass is for the hydrous state (with H2O) and the other mass is for the anhydous state - so the difference must be the mass of water.
So, assuming % is % by weight (or mass), find the % of water in hydrated MgSO4.
The number of moles, n, is found by dividing the mass by the molar mass - hint: molecular mass of water.
Then the formula for hydrated Mg sulfate is just MgSO4.nH2O, where n is usually an integer. You will also need the number of moles of MgSO4, so that n is an integer.
In part 2 - A 16.43 of anhydrous CaCl2 weighed 21.75g after being left ina dessicator for several months. What is the formula of the hydrated CaCl2?
Same approach as part 1. The difference in mass is the mass of water. Determine moles of water and CaCl2, and write a formula where the number of moles, n, of water is an integer.


ooo okies thx!
 
Sorry to bump this topic but I was wondering; how do we find 'n'- the integer value?
 
Experimental ratio is never exactly integer, you have to round.

Note that while formula contains n that is an integer, in reality quite often hydrated salts don't have exact composition, as there can exist several hydrates in equilibrium. In effect n determined experimentally depends on the temperature and humidity.
 

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