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dduardo
Dec10-05, 08:28 AM
It looks like the music industry is on the rampage again. Now they don't want you getting lyrics online. Not only that, but they want to jail website owners for posting them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

Astronuc
Dec10-05, 08:54 AM
Well one can buy the song and write the lyrics for personal use.

Afterall, music is a business. The lyrics, music and songs/tunes are copyrighted and are considered property.

Technically, one may copy for personal use, but one cannot legally distribute the music or lyrics, and technically an artist may not perform a copyrighted work without expressed permission from the copyright owner.

It's about MONEY!

zoobyshoe
Dec10-05, 09:21 AM
It looks like the music industry is on the rampage again. Now they don't want you getting lyrics online. Not only that, but they want to jail website owners for posting them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm
It looks like they're much more concerned about the sheet music, which usually includes the lyrics of course. I'm not sure this is going to really get to sites where you can look lyrics up just cause you're trying to figure out what they're saying.

It will be sad if it does, though. It would make me feel like they're on the verge of suing any unlicensed person who hums the tune in the presence of someone else.

motai
Dec10-05, 09:33 AM
It will be sad if it does, though. It would make me feel like they're on the verge of suing any unlicensed person who hums the tune in the presence of someone else.

Soon it will get to the point where even unlicensed singers who happen to sing a copyrighted song will be fined or sent to jail. In order to sing any copyrighted song, first must have to pay royalties to the recording company.

Why does it seem like these recording companies are becoming more and more rabid? What's next, life imprisonment for ownership of copyrighted songs? :bugeye:

Astronuc
Dec10-05, 10:46 AM
Soon it will get to the point where even unlicensed singers who happen to sing a copyrighted song will be fined or sent to jail. In order to sing any copyrighted song, first must have to pay royalties to the recording company. One can sing to oneself or others, but one cannot charge money. Seriously, I know several professional performers, and they will not sing another artist's songs without permission.

matthyaouw
Dec10-05, 11:29 AM
It's about MONEY!

But where is the money? As far as I'm aware, record companies don't offer any way of paying to obtain lyrics. The odd music score exists, but these are few and far between from what I've seen.

Astronuc
Dec10-05, 12:20 PM
But where is the money? As far as I'm aware, record companies don't offer any way of paying to obtain lyrics. The odd music score exists, but these are few and far between from what I've seen.
Well presumably, once 'free' lyrics sites are shutdown, they will be replaced by websites for which one pays for lyrics, e.g. Apples I-tunes, where one can buy any song/tune for $0.99.

mattmns
Dec10-05, 01:06 PM
Paying for lyrics? Geeze, whatever happened to including the lyrics in the little booklet.

Danger
Dec10-05, 01:22 PM
Up here (and I thought that it applied in the US as well), the musicians' organization (not quite a union) pays the copyright holders on behalf of the people who perform cover tunes, who in turn pay through their dues. I have no idea what formulae are used to govern distribution of payment.

nazgjunk
Dec10-05, 01:28 PM
Paying for lyrics? Geeze, whatever happened to including the lyrics in the little booklet.

Exactly. You might not believe it, but I hardly have any copied CD's (hopefully I won't get sued for saying that;). The main reason why I like to buy original CD's are the cases and booklets. Sadly, musicians tend to forget the importance of those.

dduardo
Dec10-05, 04:54 PM
When you buy music online there is no booklet and thus no lyrics. What do they expect people to do? Go to Sam Ash and get a hold of the sheet music? What happens if there is none?

Moonbear
Dec10-05, 09:27 PM
Paying for lyrics? Geeze, whatever happened to including the lyrics in the little booklet.

When you buy music online there is no booklet and thus no lyrics.

Even when you get the CDs, they don't include the lyrics anymore. They're out of their tree if they think people are going to pay for lyrics though. I've looked up lyrics online from time to time, usually for one of two reasons; 1) I own the song and like it and want to sing along, but can't understand a few phrases and want to check what they are, or 2) I heard a song on the radio and am trying to find the name of it, so search lyrics for the phrases I recall to check the name so I can buy it. In the first case, if I can't get the lyrics, no big deal, I'll live without them if they think they're going to try selling them to me (what other reason would there be to not allow people to put up free lyrics online?) In the second case, they're only shooting themselves in the foot...if I can't search lyrics to find the name of the song, I sure won't be able to buy it either, and if I like a song enough to look it up using the lyrics, it's because I want to buy it.

Evo
Dec10-05, 10:29 PM
I think it would be ridiculous to shut down sites that have lyrics. They aren't playing the songs, there is no music. It's nice to know what the singer is saying, which a lot of times you can't tell by listening. One of my favorite mis-heard lyrics is a Jimmie Hendricks song "scuse me while I kiss this guy". :biggrin:

Here are some other goodies.

Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"

Wrong - And there's a wino down the road, I should've stole his Oreos

Right - And as we wind on down the road, Our shadows taller than our souls

Bachman Turner Overdrive "Takin' Care of Business"

Wrong - Bakin' carrot biscuits

Right - Takin' care of business

Clash "Rock the Casbah"

Wrong - Sherry don't like it, rock the catbox

Right - The Sharif don't like it, rock the Casbah

Beatles "Ticket to Ride"

Wrong - She's got a chicken to ride

Right - She's got a ticket to ride

More here http://www.rareexception.com/Garden/Misinterpreted/Lyrics.php

Astronuc
Dec10-05, 10:39 PM
And there's a wino down the road, I should've stole his Oreos :rofl: :rofl: I almost fell off the chair. Good think I wasn't drinking at the time. :rofl:

tribdog
Dec10-05, 10:44 PM
Mammaries, lick the corner of my mouth.
Mister where'd you get those mammaries

don't know the right lyrics

tribdog
Dec10-05, 10:50 PM
Astronuc that's twice you've jumped ahead of me while I was writing. You need to let me know where you are going next, cause I'm not putting up with it all night.

Astronuc
Dec10-05, 11:25 PM
I didn't know you were into riding chicken's trib. :rofl:

Or sleeping habits.

TheStatutoryApe
Dec11-05, 06:06 PM
I think a while back some musicians used to purposefully add lyrics that sounded like two different phrases so they could get one over on the censors.


Also these copyright laws are becoming rediculous. They're no longer what they were meant to be. They've gone from a means of rewarding people for their contributions to society to a means for corporations to extort people.