What is the method for determining charge enclosed in a cube using Gauss's law?

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss's law to determine the charge enclosed in a cube given an electric field expression. The subject area includes electromagnetism, specifically the concepts of electric fields and charge density.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the nature of the electric field and its conservativeness, calculate charge density using Gauss's law, and discuss the ambiguity in defining the cube's position. There are attempts to compute the flux through the cube's faces and alternative methods to verify results.

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Participants have provided guidance on calculating the flux and verifying the charge density. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, and some participants have confirmed their methods and results without reaching a consensus.

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There are discussions about the ambiguity of the cube's corner position and the need to integrate over all six faces of the cube. Some participants note potential errors in calculations and the importance of considering constant factors in the electric field expression.

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I have the electric field in a region give by:
[tex]\vec E = \frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \left(ax^2\hat x + yz^2\hat y + y^2z\hat z\right)[/tex]
where 'k' and 'a' are constants.
There are few questions I need to solve.

1: Is the field conservative?
A: Yes. I computed the curl and found it equal to zero.
[tex]\nabla \times \vec E = 0[/tex]

2: Calculate the charge density at a point P(x,y,z).
A: I applied the differential form of Gauss's law.
[tex]\nabla \cdot \vec E = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
[itex]\rho[/itex] is the charge density.
So, I got the charge density as:
[tex]\rho = \epsilon_0 \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right][/tex]
Please verify if my method is correct.

3: Determine the charge enclosed in a cube of side 'a' with one of its corners at the origin and sides parallel to x,y and z axes.
A: I applied Gauss's law here too!
[tex]\int \vec E \cdot d\vec a = \frac{Q_{enclosed}}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
How do I calculate the flux here?
 
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Reshma said:
2: Calculate the charge density at a point P(x,y,z).
A: I applied the differential form of Gauss's law.
[tex]\nabla \cdot \vec E = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
[itex]\rho[/itex] is the charge density.
So, I got the charge density as:
[tex]\rho = \epsilon_0 \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right][/tex]
Please verify if my method is correct.

Your method is correct.

3: Determine the charge enclosed in a cube of side 'a' with one of its corners at the origin and sides parallel to x,y and z axes.
A: I applied Gauss's law here too!

Right again.

[tex]\int \vec E \cdot d\vec a = \frac{Q_{enclosed}}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
How do I calculate the flux here?

Calculate it over each face of the cube, one at a time. Here's a hint: For the two faces that are parallel to the yz-plane, the unit normals are [itex]\hat{i}[/itex] and [itex]-\hat{i}[/itex].
 
Problem 3 is ambiguous since anyone of the 8 corners of the cube could be at the coordinate origin - which is probably a hint at what the answer will be! :)

All you need to do is recognize that [itex]d\vec a[/itex] is in the direction of the normal to the surface and consists of products of dxdy, dxdz and dydz - then integrate over all 6 faces of the cube.
 
Thanks Tom Mattson and Tide for looking into my problem!
Reshma said:
I have the electric field in a region give by:
[tex]\vec E = \frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \left(ax^2\hat x + yz^2\hat y + y^2z\hat z\right)[/tex]
where 'k' and 'a' are constants.
2: Calculate the charge density at a point P(x,y,z).
A: I applied the differential form of Gauss's law.
[tex]\vec \nabla \cdot \vec E = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
[itex]\rho[/itex] is the charge density.
So, I got the charge density as:
[tex]\rho = \epsilon_0 \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right][/tex]
Er..actually I made a serious blunder here :rolleyes: .
I forgot to multiply the constant factor in the electric field expression. So the charge density is:
[tex]\rho = \frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \epsilon_0 \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right][/tex]
[tex]\rho = \frac{k}{a^4} \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right][/tex]
 
Tide said:
Problem 3 is ambiguous since anyone of the 8 corners of the cube could be at the coordinate origin - which is probably a hint at what the answer will be! :)
All you need to do is recognize that [itex]d\vec a[/itex] is in the direction of the normal to the surface and consists of products of dxdy, dxdz and dydz - then integrate over all 6 faces of the cube.
Thanks, I tried it. There are 6 faces in all.
1] x = a, [itex]d\vec a = dydz\hat x[/itex]

[tex]\frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \int_0^a \int_0^a a^2 dydz = \frac{ak}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]

2] x = 0, [itex]d\vec a = -dydz\hat x[/itex]
Intergal vanishes here!

3] y = a, [itex]d\vec a = dxdz\hat y[/itex]

[tex]\frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \int_0^a \int_0^a az^2 dxdz = \frac{ak}{3\epsilon_0}[/tex]

4] y = 0, [itex]d\vec a = -dxdz\hat y[/itex]
Integral vanishes here too.

5] z = a, [itex]d\vec a = dxdy\hat z[/itex]

[tex]\frac{k}{\epsilon_0 a^4} \int_0^a \int_0^a ay^2 dxdz = \frac{ak}{3\epsilon_0}[/tex]

6] z = 0, [itex]d\vec a = -dxdy\hat z[/itex]
Integral vanishes here.

So the total flux is:
[tex]\frac{ak}{\epsilon_0} + \frac{ak}{3\epsilon_0} + \frac{ak}{3\epsilon_0} = \frac{5ak}{3\epsilon_0}[/tex]

Hence, total charge enclosed is:
[tex]Q_{enclosed} = \epsilon_0 \frac{5ak}{3\epsilon_0} = \frac{5ak}{3}[/tex]
 
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An alternative method

I discovered yesterday that there is yet another alternative method to solve this problem. I can use the Green's theorem over a volume element.
[tex]Q_{enclosed} = \int_{all space} \rho dV[/tex]
dV is the volume element given by [itex]dV = dxdydz[/itex]
So,
[tex]Q_{enclosed} = \frac{k}{a^4}\int_0^a \int_0^a \int_0^a \left[2ax + y^2 + z^2\right]dx dy dz[/tex]
The evaluation of this integral gives me the same result as above.
[tex]Q_{enclosed} = \frac{5ak}{3}[/tex]
So my answer is correct! :biggrin:
 
Way to go, Reshma!
 

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