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zolloz89
Feb21-06, 09:12 PM
my teacher said my answer is wrong but i cannot figure out why

there is a ferris wheel. a rider in the ferris wheel is 35kg. the radius of the ferris wheel is 12m. it asks what is the magnitude of the force does the seat exert on the rider when he is halfway between the top and the bottom?

i got 343N by using the force summation equation, Fnet = Fn + Fg = 0 because there are no other forces acting on the rider in the vertical direction
Fg=35kg x 9.8m/s^2 = 343, Fn=-Fg, Fn=-(-343) = 343N

please help me understand why my methods are wrong
thanks in advance

topsquark
Feb21-06, 09:27 PM
my teacher said my answer is wrong but i cannot figure out why

there is a ferris wheel. a rider in the ferris wheel is 35kg. the radius of the ferris wheel is 12m. it asks what is the magnitude of the force does the seat exert on the rider when he is halfway between the top and the bottom?

i got 343N by using the force summation equation, Fnet = Fn + Fg = 0 because there are no other forces acting on the rider in the vertical direction
Fg=35kg x 9.8m/s^2 = 343, Fn=-Fg, Fn=-(-343) = 343N

please help me understand why my methods are wrong
thanks in advance

The Ferris wheel is moving the rider in a circle, presumably at a constant angular speed, so the net force on the rider is equal to the centripetal force. In the vertical direction, you are correct: Fnet(vert)=0 N. What about in the direction of the center of the Ferris wheel? Since the rider is not sliding in that direction, friction must be keeping him there. That's the origin for the centripetal force at this point in the motion.

-Dan

gulsen
Feb21-06, 09:30 PM
Between top and bottom, the centipetal force is pointing inwards, in horizontal, not vertical. And let's assume it wasn't, if you balance out centripedal force, how would he accelerate and draw a cirle (relative to the observe on the ground, of course).

zolloz89
Feb21-06, 09:37 PM
i think it is only asking about the vertical force on the rider exerted by the seat

gulsen
Feb21-06, 09:45 PM
i think it is only asking about the vertical force on the rider exerted by the seat
...which equals to his weight.

zolloz89
Feb21-06, 09:48 PM
yeah so that would equal normal force which would be 35kg x 9.8m/s^2, right