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pivoxa15
Mar13-06, 04:18 AM
How would you go about this question?

Show that by allowing the state n=0 for a particle in a 1D box will violoate the uncertainty principle, delta(x)delta(p)>=h(bar)/2

I have tried to substitute all sorts of different relationships but do seem to get anywhere. I have showed that E=0 for a ground state electron but can't seem to relate it to the uncertainty principle.

dextercioby
Mar13-06, 04:30 AM
You just have to compute the uncertainties for each variable, x and p_{x}, knowing the wavefunction.

Daniel.

pivoxa15
Mar13-06, 08:41 PM
You just have to compute the uncertainties for each variable, x and p_{x}, knowing the wavefunction.

Daniel.


If we allow n=0, the wavefunction will cease to exist hence the particle will cease to exist. Hence momentum and position of a particle does not exist or could you say 0. Hence any change in the n=0 state, the particle will continue to cease to exist. In this way the HU principle will not be satisfied. But my argument is pretty vague. Is there a quantifiable way to express this?

dextercioby
Mar14-06, 05:55 AM
What's the energy spectrum for the particle...?

Daniel.

pivoxa15
Mar16-06, 05:29 AM
What do you mean by the energy spectrum?

Do you mean the energy levels?
At n=0, Energy=0.
At other levels, Energy=n^2(pie)^2(hbar)^2/(2mL^2)

But how does it relate to the UC?