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Nim
Dec23-03, 02:32 AM
How slow can an explosion possibly be?

Achy47
Dec23-03, 03:55 AM
I'm not sure whether there is an accurate/helpful answer to your question as it is stated. The term explosion is very general as it applies to the release of mechanical, chemical, or nuclear energy (however Feynman once stated that nuclear bombs are really electrical bombs: it's true).

If you are referring to high explosives, there is a term you should read into: (VOD) or Velocity Of Detonation. VOD is defined as the rate at which the detonation wave travels through the explosive product. It usually falls in the rage of 2000-8000 m/s. VOD only pertains to high explosives and really has no usefull meaning in the context of low explosives. Remember that high explosives don't involve combustion reactions (oxidation reduction reactions) but rather detonation (a type of molecular dissassociation).

Some reading:

Meglomania's (http://roguesci.org/megalomania/explosives.html)
The Explosives and Weapons Forum. (http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/)
This site represents is a VERY competent forum community. I highly reccomend its material.

BTW. Please be responsible with this information. I would hate to see an obituaries section added to PF.[*(]

Edit - Grammar

LURCH
Dec23-03, 09:55 AM
I think the generally accepted difference between "detonation" and "combustion" is wether the reaction takes place at supersonic speed for the medium being burned.

In an internal combustion engine, for example, care is taken to avoid a feul/O2/pressure combination that will "detonate" the fuel in the cylinder, because such an explosion will damage the piston heads (this is one of the main engineering obsticals to Pulse Detonation Engines). Although I've never seen it explicitly stated, the difference between detonation and combustion is always discussed in terms of a supersonic or a subsonic shockwave.

For example, this artical (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviation/article/0,12543,473272-2,00.html) no pulse detonation states that...

In deflagration—even in "fast flame" situations ordinarily called explosions—that reaction moves at tens of meters per second at most. But in detonation, a supersonic shock wave slams down the tube... .

Not a clear-cut definition, as most people would refer to what goes on inside an engine cylinder as an "explosion".

Achy47
Dec23-03, 11:53 AM
Thanks for catching my mistake.[o)]

As you said. The wavefront seems to be the key factor in HE.
It's funny though how many high explosives will not detonate without a sufficiently energetic shock wave. They are not combustible in the usual sense of the word. Even when they are exposed to intense flame many types remain stable and will not detonate or will not do so efficiently. The oxidation (for most HE) occurs only after the molecules have been "cracked open."
Also HE usially carries mos of its own oxidizer in the compund.

On a side note: I really do hate changing those head gaskets after a bad tank of fuel.[g)]