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mannyfold
Apr15-06, 10:00 PM
I am having a problem that is glossed over in many text books but is driving me nuts.
Consider the following inner product or one-form with a vector argument:
dx_i(partial_j) = kroenicker delta ij
Here, dx_i is a one-form and partial_j (the partial wrt x_j) is a vector.
Some books say:
dx_i(partial_j) = partial x_i / partial x_j = kroenicker delta ij
The problem is that I can't see how this is true. (Well, I do know that partial x_i / partial x_j = kroenicker delta ij but I can't see the rest.) What am I missing here?
Thanks.
javanse
Apr16-06, 09:45 AM
The crux is the definition of the differential:
df(v)=vf, where v is a tangent vector.
This is of the form L(x)=ax in linear algebra:
L is a linear function, x a vector, a the covector, defined by a_i=L(e_i).
Now let df be dx and v the coordinate-tangentvector d/dx (d=partials),
then
dx^i(d/dx_j)=dx^i/dx_j=delta ij.
mannyfold
Apr16-06, 10:25 AM
AHA!
That is the problem!
I don't see how df(v) = vf. Where did you get that definition of the differential?
df = partial f / partial x^i dx^i (i = 0 .. n)
but the partials here are just the components of the 1-form.
I have the feeling that there is something very simple that I'm not seeing here.
javanse
Apr16-06, 12:42 PM
Let's write df=(df/dx^i)dx^i (last d=partials)
What is df(v), where v is a vector?
df(v)=(df/dx^i)dx^i(v)
What is dx^i(v)?
It's simply v^i.
So you can write:
df(v)=(df/dx^i)v^i = v^i(df/dx^i).
But what is our v^i on a manifold?
It's d/dx^i!
So you can write it as df(v)=vf, where v=d/dx^i
mannyfold
Apr16-06, 03:03 PM
Hi Javanse,
I appreciate your replies, but I am going to challenge what you wrote.
We are seeking to prove df(v) = vf.
You wrote:
df(v)=(df/dx^i)dx^i(v)
What is dx^i(v)?
It's simply v^i.
But this assumes what we are trying to prove:
dx^i(v) = v^jx^i =d/dx^j (x^i) = v^i delta ij
You wrote:
df(v)=(df/dx^i)v^i = v^i(df/dx^i).
How can you commutate the differential operator v^i?
Finally, from this last statement you get df(v) = vf, but if you read it carefully you don't dispose of the df/dx^i so it appears that your result is:
df(v) = (d/dx^j) (df/dx^i) = v (df/dx^i)
mannyfold
Apr16-06, 05:23 PM
Another perspective on this is yet another equality I've found that was not expounded upon:
dx^i (partial/partial x^j) = (partial x^i)/(partial x^j) = delta ij
I get the last equality. I can't see the first.
javanse
Apr16-06, 06:52 PM
Okay, last try :)
Let v=v^i d/dx^i
-> v(f)=v^i df/dx^i.
This is the directional derivative.
df(v)=(df/dx^i)v^i = v^i(df/dx^i).
How can you commutate the differential operator v^i?
I introduced the operator at the end.
You can also write the v^i from the beginning in front of the derivative.
But the result is the same as above: it is the directional derivative.
But this assumes what we are trying to prove:
dx^i(v) = v^jx^i =d/dx^j (x^i) = v^i delta ij
dxi(v)=v(xi)=vj delta ij=vi :)
Maybe someone else has another explanation.
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