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how do we measure the relativistic energy of a tardyon?
The discussion centers on methods for measuring the relativistic energy of tardyons, with a focus on techniques used in particle physics laboratories. Participants explore various approaches, including calorimetry and cyclotron measurements, while addressing the distinctions between kinetic and total energy.
Participants express differing views on the capabilities of calorimeters, particularly regarding whether they measure total energy or just kinetic energy. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives on the measurement methods.
Participants highlight limitations in measuring total energy versus kinetic energy and the assumptions involved in using calorimeters and cyclotrons. There is also mention of the dependency on the definitions of energy types in the context of particle physics.
A calorimeter will only measure the kinetic energy of a particle, not the total energy.pervect said:The laboratory answer is via calorimeters,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorimeter_(particle_physics )
Calorimeter
In particle physics, any device that can measure the energy deposited in it by particles (originally a device that measured heat energy deposited, thus a calorie-meter). More Information: Liquid Argon Calorimeter, How does a Calorimeter Work?, Warm Iron Calorimeter
If the particle is charged then use a cyclotron. Assume B (strength of magnetic field) is a given. Measure r = radius of circle particle is moving in. Measure the speed the particle is moving at. Then use the cyclotron relation p = qBr derived herebernhard.rothenstein said:how do we measure the relativistic energy of a tardyon?
Actually that only tells you the kinetic energy, not the total energy. Are you saying that a calorimeter measures E, not K? In any case the rest energy is so small compared to the kinetic energy there is little difference between the two.pervect said:I hope that this was the answer that was being looked for - i.e. how do particle physicists actually measure the energy of particles.