Did Stephen Hawking Actually Read This Letter?

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The discussion revolves around a letter purportedly addressed to Stephen Hawking, exploring its content and the reactions it elicits. Participants express a range of opinions on the humor, seriousness, and appropriateness of the letter, as well as its implications regarding freedom of speech and respect for Hawking's legacy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants find humor in the letter's content, particularly in its absurdity, while others view it as sad or disrespectful.
  • One participant suggests that the letter reflects a broader commentary on societal issues, such as the acceptance of pornography.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the scientific insights attributed to Hawking, noting a personal bias against his work.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of language used in the thread title and its potential impact on younger readers.
  • A participant reflects on their struggle to understand complex physics concepts, comparing their experience to that of historical figures like Professor H. Dingle.
  • There is speculation about whether Hawking would have found the letter amusing or dismissive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the letter's humor and respectfulness. Some find it funny, while others feel it is inappropriate. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal biases and varying levels of understanding of physics, which may influence their interpretations of the letter and its implications.

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That wasn't funny, just plain sad.
 
very, very strange...
 
Originally posted by climbhi
That wasn't funny, just plain sad.

Oh come on, don't you think it's a little funny that someone would say I've learned from a prostitute who once said, "I know I do not deserve saying this. But I love you." [sic] to Stephen Hawking?

... or how 'bout, I've found all the damn reasons to believe better pornography would be accepted and even children would be allowed to watch it in future. Yet I never dared to say it for I was scared. I was scared I would be wrong, laughed, humiliated, hated, and misunderstood. I was scared for not having qualification or knowledge, for saying things I should not say, doing things I should not do, though I never hurt anyone. [sic]?

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Originally posted by eNtRopY
Oh come on, don't you think it's a little funny that someone would say I've learned from a prostitute who once said, "I know I do not deserve saying this. But I love you." [sic] to Stephen Hawking?

... or how 'bout, I've found all the damn reasons to believe better pornography would be accepted and even children would be allowed to watch it in future. Yet I never dared to say it for I was scared. I was scared I would be wrong, laughed, humiliated, hated, and misunderstood. I was scared for not having qualification or knowledge, for saying things I should not say, doing things I should not do, though I never hurt anyone. [sic]?

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Okay maybe the second part was a little funny.
 
i think it was great all the way though, not only in comedy but in seriousness also. granted i never found much insight in what i have seen from Hawking either so that has some bais to it as well. also, i ponder the possibility that the consistency of the speed of light could be a perceptual thing and not directly indicative of really; don't ask me to present an argument on that though, like i said it is mealy speculation.
 
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Seemed funny in some places, but it is disrespectful, but it is also Freedom of Speech, Sooooo...


Sorta agree with Kyleb's statements, about the science parts...

Dislike the 'Verve' in the threads title, should be able to attract a reader without the need of expletives...?
 
Originally posted by climbhi
That wasn't funny, just plain sad.
Yep. :wink: If I were a guy who found it appropriate
to express his feelings in public (which is
mostly not the case) - I'd laugh through tears !
 
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Dislike the 'Verve' in the threads title, should be able to attract a reader without the need of expletives...?

i didn't know there was anything obscene about that specific expression. granted i like rock'n roll music and all sorts of other thinks that some people swear up and down is vulgar as can be.


oh, and i suppose the letter could be considered disrespectful in some sense; but such is life. to be honest, i have not read much from Hawking and i am no Einstein; but have done my share of studding in that read a transcript from a debate between Stephen Hawking and Sir Roger Penrose, it was quite a good book. well i enjoyed reading the Penrose part, but Hawking's stuff seemed either blatantly obvious or based on absurd amounts of conjecture. i found that rather disrespectful myself and i got the feeling that Sir Penrose did as well although he handled himself quite well thought the ordeal. point being; people are bound to find opinions disrespectful on occasion, suck it up.
 
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Originally posted by kyleb
i didn't know there was anything obscene about that specific expression. granted i like rock'n roll music and all sorts of other thinks that some people swear up and down is vulgar as can be.

It was not an accusation, just an observation, cause there just might be some younger readers.

personally I find the excessive use (which you have not done) a sign of a lack of verbal skills, and a clear sense of them having an inferiority 'issue', with respect to being taken seriously, hence that kind of language, for the impact they seek, but (feel they) can not get, any other way.

Just because others indulge doesn't mean you should, or shouldn't.

The idea of "disrespect" is only an observation, no 'intent' is placed, other then 'noting' it that way.
 
  • #11
It sounds like something TENYEARS would write...heh heh heh..
 
  • #12
But the truth is I don't understand it. If I did a 7-year Physics course in uni, I think I could only get that far to your 17th page at most. And worse, I know I would still not agree with you. Even Professor H. Dingle did not agree with Einstein, what luck then should I have? I don't know why I cannot pretend to understand it. I just can't. Something wrong with it, or something wrong with me. I must be an idiot in Physics. That's the only thing I could deduce from reading twenty books about relativity.

Who the hell is Professor H. Dingle?
 
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you can find more about the man, if you check out this website of heresy here.
 
  • #14
you think hawking even bothered to open the letter...probably for a laugh...
 

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