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stoffer
Feb7-04, 12:37 PM
Can anybody help me with the integral of 1/ (x^1/3 + x^1/4)
(cube root and fourth root of x) I dont really know where to start.

Also my roomate and i were wondering if x^sin(x) exists or if it has to be expressed and integrated as some sort of series.(something i havent learned yet)

Muzza
Feb7-04, 01:57 PM
Perhaps you could rewrite it as 1 / (x^(1/4) * (1 + x^(1/12))) and use partial fractions? I don't really know. Looks like it'll be pretty messy...

matt grime
Feb7-04, 02:43 PM
try substituting x = y^12

as for x^sin(x).. it's exp{log(x^sinx)} = exp{sinx*log(x)}

that's the standard way of defining x^f(x)

stoffer
Feb7-04, 07:08 PM
ok thanks for your help guys

wesywes
Mar14-07, 06:48 PM
Can anybody help me with the integral of 1/ (x^1/3 + x^1/4)
(cube root and fourth root of x) I dont really know where to start.

Also my roomate and i were wondering if x^sin(x) exists or if it has to be expressed and integrated as some sort of series.(something i havent learned yet)

just take the ln of that.. and do the rest intuitively, but hey what do i know, im only 16.

d_leet
Mar22-07, 07:12 PM
This is actually a very simple integral. Rewrite it as \int x^{-\frac{1}{3}} + x^{-\frac{1}{2}} dx

That is certainly not the same as the function in the original post.

d_leet
Mar22-07, 07:49 PM
Sorry, I meant \int x^{-\frac{1}{3}} + x^{-\frac{1}{4}} dx

That still isn't the same function. You can't manipulate fractions like that, it just doesn't work.

morphism
Mar22-07, 10:16 PM
This is why I'm not a fan of rushing people into calculus without a solid foundation in the basics of algebra. (In reference to d_leet's quotes.)

Anyway, matt's substitution kills this integral. You can also re-write the integrand as:

\frac{x^{12}}{x^4 + x^3} = \frac{x^9}{1 + x} = \frac{x^9 + 1 - 1}{1+x}

Then proceed...

dextercioby
Mar23-07, 07:24 AM
Anyway, matt's substitution kills this integral. You can also re-write the integrand as:

\frac{x^{12}}{x^4 + x^3} = \frac{x^9}{1 + x} = \frac{x^9 + 1 - 1}{1+x}

Then proceed...

Actually it's a power less in the numerator:

I=\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt[3]{x}+\sqrt[4]{x}}=12 \int \frac{y^{8}}{y+1}{}dy

,where y=\sqrt[12]{x} .

morphism
Mar23-07, 12:56 PM
Actually it's a power less in the numerator:

I=\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt[3]{x}+\sqrt[4]{x}}=12 \int \frac{y^{8}}{y+1}{}dy

,where y=\sqrt[12]{x} .
I didn't use the substitution...