Solving Angular Momentum in QM: Find Probability of L^2 Values

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem focused on finding the probability of measuring specific values of the angular momentum operator L^2 for a particle described by a wave function on a sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to express the wave function as a linear combination of angular momentum eigenstates and identify corresponding eigenvalues. Questions arise regarding the complexity of integrals involved in calculating probabilities from the coefficients of the expansion.

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Some participants have made progress in their understanding and calculations, with one noting a potential method involving Taylor expansion of the wave function. Others have successfully computed the necessary integrals, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is mention of the wave function's independence from the azimuthal angle φ, leading to specific simplifications in the analysis. The complexity of the integrals and the search for alternative methods of calculation are also highlighted.

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Hello,

I'm trying to solve a problem dealing with finding the probability of measuring certain values of [tex]L^2[/tex] for a particle.

The particle is on a sphere and is in the state [tex]\Psi (\theta , \phi) = Ne^{\\cos{\theta }}[/tex].

I don't know quite how to start, I guess I have to decompose the wave function in eigenfunctions for [tex]L^2[/tex], and then find the corresponding eigenvalues, and form that find the probability of measuring that particular eigenvalue, but like I said, I don't really know where to start.

Does anybody have any pointers?

Thanks!
 
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Nope, you have to do you wrote. That is try to write your wavefunction as a linear combination of angular momentum eigenstates.

Daniel.
 
Thanks for the reply!

I've worked some more, and I think I've made some progress :smile:

The eigenfunctions of [tex]\^{L}^2[/tex] are spherical harmonics, but since the wave function is independent of [tex]\phi[/tex], m = 0, i.e [tex]\Psi(\theta,\phi) = \sum_{l} c_{l,0}Y_l^0[/tex].
The eigenvalues are [tex]l(l+1)\hbar[/tex]. So I just see which value of [tex]l[/tex] corresponds with the values I'm supposed to find the probability of. The probability is calculated with: [tex]|c_{l}|^2 = |<\Psi|Y_l^0>|^2[/tex]. This is where I'm stuck at the moment. The integrals are really complicated and I can't find them in any books, is there any easier way to calculate this?

Thanks!
 
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Izbitzer said:
Thanks for the reply!

I've worked some more, and I think I've made some progress :smile:

The eigenfunctions of [tex]\^{L}^2[/tex] are spherical harmonics, but since the wave function is independent of [tex]\phi[/tex], m = 0, i.e [tex]\Psi(\theta,\phi) = \sum_{l} c_{l,0}Y_l^0[/tex].
The eigenvalues are [tex]l(l+1)\hbar[/tex]. So I just see which value of [tex]l[/tex] corresponds with the values I'm supposed to find the probability of. The probability is calculated with: [tex]|c_{l}|^2 = |<\Psi|Y_l^0>|^2[/tex]. This is where I'm stuck at the moment. The integrals are really complicated and I can't find them in any books, is there any easier way to calculate this?

Thanks!
A suggestion: I don't recall the exact form of the[itex]Y^l_0[/itex], but aren't they simple to write in terms of [itex](cos \theta)^n[/itex] ? Then you simply have to Taylor expand [itex]e^{cos \theta)}[/itex]. The coefficients will simply be the usual 1/n!. If you have a closed form expression for the [itex]Y^l_0 (cos (\theta)[/itex], then you can find the coeeficients c_l without doing a single integral.

Patrick
 
nrqed said:
A suggestion: I don't recall the exact form of the[itex]Y^l_0[/itex], but aren't they simple to write in terms of [itex](cos \theta)^n[/itex] ? Then you simply have to Taylor expand [itex]e^{cos \theta)}[/itex]. The coefficients will simply be the usual 1/n!. If you have a closed form expression for the [itex]Y^l_0 (cos (\theta)[/itex], then you can find the coeeficients c_l without doing a single integral.

Patrick

That probably would have worked, but I managed to solve the damn integrals before I read your reply :smile: All it took was some (a lot of) integration by parts, and it turned out ok. Now I can finally rest. :smile:

Thanks for taking the time guys!
 

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