Solving sec^-1 in Horizontal Displacement Equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the meaning of the units in the horizontal displacement equation for damped oscillating objects, specifically the interpretation of (beta) and (omega) as sec^-1. Participants explore the implications of these units in the context of the equation provided.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether sec^-1 represents seconds or secant, expressing confusion over the values given in the formula.
  • Another participant clarifies that sec^-1 indeed refers to seconds, suggesting that if it were secant, there would need to be an accompanying value.
  • A technical distinction is made between sec^-1 and Hz, with one participant noting that sec^-1 denotes angular rate (radians per second) while Hz denotes cycles per second, highlighting the difference by a factor of 2π.
  • Further clarification is provided that 1 sec^-1 equals 2π Hz, with a participant emphasizing that sec^-1 is often interpreted as a unit of angular velocity.
  • There is acknowledgment of the potential for multiple definitions of s^-1, and a participant notes that s^-1 is commonly read as 'per second.'
  • Corrections are made regarding the notation and definitions, with participants engaging in refining the earlier claims about the relationship between sec^-1 and Hz.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that sec^-1 refers to seconds and that it is distinct from secant. However, there is some debate regarding the precise relationship between sec^-1 and Hz, with differing interpretations of their meanings and applications.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved nuances regarding the definitions of frequency and angular rate, as well as the implications of using sec^-1 in different contexts. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these units and their applications in the equation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals working with equations involving damped oscillations, particularly those seeking clarification on the units of measurement used in such contexts.

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I've got a problem where I'm given some variables that I don't understand the value of. The formula is for horizontal displacement of damped oscillating objects. The values I'm not understanding are:

(beta) = 0.1 sec^-1
(omega) = .05 sec ^-1

What does sec represent? seconds? secant?

I thought maybe it was .1 seconds raised to the negative 1 power, but the graph I get doesn't match the answer. I'm trying to put the formula into an excel spreadsheet. The full equation is:

x=x(naught)e^(-beta*time)*[cos(omega*time)+(beta/omega)sin(omega*time)]

I would appreciate any help on this.

Thx
 
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In general

[tex]x^{-1} = 1/x[/tex]

In particular,

[tex]\mathrm{sec}^{-1} = 1 / \mathrm{sec} = \mathrm{Hz}[/tex]

(yes, sec = seconds)
 
As Hurkyl said, it is seconds

Ask yourself this, if it was secant...then wouldn't there have to be a following value?? or are you going to take a secant of nothing?
 
Thanks, Hurkyl!
 
Just a technical point to avoid confusion: Both sec^-1 and Hz are used to denote frequency. However, by convention, Hz stands for cycles per second and sec^-1 is the angular rate (radians per second): they differ by a factor of [itex]2\pi[/itex]. In particular,

[tex]2\pi\mbox{ sec}^{-1}=1\mbox{ Hz}[/tex]

Edit: corrected as per NateTG post.
 
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Originally posted by krab
Just a technical point to avoid confusion: Both sec^-1 and Hz are used to denote frequency. However, by convention, Hz stands for cycles per second and sec^-1 is the angular rate (radians per second): they differ by a factor of [itex]2\pi[/itex]. In particular,

[tex]1\mbox{ sec}^{-1}=2\pi\mbox{ Hz}[/tex]

Don't you mean [tex]2\pi s^{-1}=1 \mbox{Hz}[/tex]? 1 Hertz is a cycle per second which is [tex]2\pi[/tex](radians) per second.

I usually think of [tex]s^{-1}[/tex] as being a unit of angular velocity, and [tex]Hz[/tex] as a unit of frequency.

Of course, since [tex]2\pi[/tex] is unitless, there can be multiple definitions of [tex]s^{-1}[/tex].

P.S. [tex]s^{-1}[/tex] is often read as 'per second.'
 
Originally posted by NateTG
Don't you mean [tex]2\pi s^{-1}=1 \mbox{Hz}[/tex]?
Sorry. My bad. I'll fix it (like revising the congressional record). I'll attribute it to you so it's clear why you corrected it.
 

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