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rcmango
Jan30-07, 07:17 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
equation: http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6239/untitledkl6.jpg
2. Relevant equations
can use geometric series i think.
3. The attempt at a solution
I think this is a geometric series, i plugged numbers into the equation, starting from 1 and got: 1/16 + 64/7 + 256/49 +...
maybe i can use a formula something like this? --> 1/(1-a)
need help with this please.
Fredrik
Jan30-07, 07:40 PM
Is the first term supposed to be 16/1 rather than 1/16? Then I would take 16 outside the series. 16*(1+4/7+16/49+...). The stuff in parentheses is the beginning of a geometric series.
Fredrik
Jan30-07, 07:46 PM
OK, now I've looked at the image too. I suggest you define k=n-1 and rewrite the sum with k as the summation variable instead of n. You will see that you need to move 16 outside the sum to get a geometric series.
rcmango
Jan30-07, 11:15 PM
"Is the first term supposed to be 16/1 " ya it is.
"I suggest you define k=n-1 and rewrite the sum with k as the summation variable instead of n."
..sorry, i'm not too good with the terminology.
however i've attached a new pic, of some of the work i did, but i need help.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4371/untitledme4.jpg
not sure if i'm on the right track, feel free to correct me!
HallsofIvy
Jan31-07, 07:46 AM
What does that "5" (or is it an "S") in your image mean? The crucial point is that the fractions in your sum are not powers of 4/7. Yes, that is a geometric series- use the formula for the sum of a geometric series.
What Fredrick was talking about before is this- your first image gives
\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}
and I'm sure you are used to having just "r^n". Okay, take out everything except the "n". 4n+1= (4n)(4) and 7n-1= (7n)(7-1).
\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n}
= \frac{4}{7^{-1}}\frac{4^n}{7^n}= (4)(7)\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n= 28\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n
rcmango
Jan31-07, 10:02 AM
yes, the 5 was an S.
okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?
where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.
HallsofIvy
Jan31-07, 10:14 AM
yes, the 5 was an S.
okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?
where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.
I have no idea. What do YOU mean by "S"? Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to post what you are using as the formula for the sum of a geometric series.
Schrodinger's Dog
Jan31-07, 01:24 PM
What does that "5" (or is it an "S") in your image mean? The crucial point is that the fractions in your sum are not powers of 4/7. Yes, that is a geometric series- use the formula for the sum of a geometric series.
What Fredrick was talking about before is this- your first image gives
\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}
and I'm sure you are used to having just "r^n". Okay, take out everything except the "n". 4n+1= (4n)(4) and 7n-1= (7n)(7-1).
\frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n}
= \frac{4}{7^{-1}}\frac{4^n}{7^n}= (4)(7)\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n= 28\left(\frac{4}{7}\right)^n
yes, the 5 was an S.
okay, 28(4/7)^n, is that my new S?
where do i go from here? before I would just have a solid fraction and divide through to get what S equals.
I have no idea. What do YOU mean by "S"? Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to post what you are using as the formula for the sum of a geometric series.
Do you mean this?
\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{4^{n+1}}{7^{n-1}}= \frac{(4)(4^n)}{7^{-1}7^n} ? Sigma?
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