Calculate Rotation Curve v(R) for Test Particles

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rotation curve, v(R), for test particles in circular orbits around a point mass and within various density distributions, including a rotating spherical cloud and a spherical halo with a density that varies with radius.

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  • Participants explore the velocity function for test particles in circular orbits, questioning how to account for different density distributions and the mass contained within specific radii. There is discussion on applying Gauss' law and integrating to find mass in non-uniform density scenarios.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights on how to derive the rotation curve based on varying density profiles. Some have provided specific equations and approaches, while others are questioning assumptions about the setup and the implications of density variations.

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There are discussions about the assumptions regarding the speed of test particles and the definitions of radius in relation to the density profiles being considered. The conversation reflects a mix of established equations and the need for further exploration of integrals in specific contexts.

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How can I calculate the rotation curve, [tex]v(R)[/tex], for test particles in circular orbits of radius [tex]R[/tex] around a point mass [tex]M[/tex]?
 
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Ok, I guess this is just the velocity function

[tex]v(R)=\sqrt{G\frac{M}{R}}[/tex]

but how about test particles in circular orbits of radius [tex]R[/tex] inside a rotating spherical cloud with uniform density?
 
Logarythmic said:
Ok, I guess this is just the velocity function

[tex]v(R)=\sqrt{G\frac{M}{R}}[/tex]

but how about test particles in circular orbits of radius [tex]R[/tex] inside a rotating spherical cloud with uniform density?

Then the mass used must be the mass contained within a sphere of radius "R" where "R" is the distance from the center of the cloud (this can be proven with Gauss' law applied to gravity). Let's say you call [itex]R_0[/itex] the radius of the cloud. Then consider a sphere of radius [itex]R < R_0[/itex]. Find the mass contained within that sphere (here's where you will use the fact that the density is uniform) and use that mass in the above equation (of course, this mass will now be a function of R).

Hope this helps

Patrick
 
Yeah thanks, then

[tex]v(R) = \sqrt{\frac{4}{3} \rho G \pi R^2}[/tex].

But what if the test particle is rotating inside a spherical halo with density [tex]\rho(r) \propto 1/r^2[/tex]?
 
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Logarythmic said:
Yeah thanks, then

[tex]v(R) = \sqrt{\frac{4}{3} \rho G \pi R^2}[/tex].

But what if the test particle is rotating inside a spherical halo with density [tex]\rho(r) \propto 1/r^2[/tex]?

Then you proceed as before except that the mass contained within a radius R won't simply be [itex]\rho \frac{4}{3} \pi R^3[/itex]. You will have to do a (simple) integral to find the mass contained within a radius R, namely

[tex]M(R) = 4 \pi \int_0^R dr r^2 \rho(r)[/tex]

Notice that something special happens to v(R) when the density has the radial dependence you gave...Which has some connection with observations fo rotation curves of galaxies and dark matter.

Patrick
 
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I assume that the speed inside the cavity is zero and that the [tex]r[/tex] here is the width of the halo and not the position from the center. Or should it be the other way around?
 
nrqed said:
Then you proceed as before except that the mass contained within a radius R won't simply be [itex]\rho \frac{4}{3} \pi R^3[/itex]. You will have to do a (simple) integral to find the mass contained within a radius R, namely

[tex]M(R) = 4 \pi \int_0^R dr r^2 \rho(r)[/tex]

Notice that something special happens to v(R) when the density has the radial dependence you gave...Which has some connection with observations fo rotation curves of galaxies and dark matter.

Patrick


And is the final answer?

v^2 = 4/3 (pi) rho(r) / r
 

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