View Full Version : Converge or diverge and how
kskiraly
Feb22-07, 07:44 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
sum of tan(1/n)/(1+n) for n=1 to infinity
2. Relevant equations
3. The attempt at a solution
I tried using the ratio test and the comparison/limit comparison tests but can't think on anything to compare it to.
mybsaccownt
Feb22-07, 11:40 PM
I'm far from a math wiz, but here's how I see it:
tan(x) will always be between -1 and 1,
but tan (1/n) will always be positive so it will be between 0 and 1
(well, actually for this problem, the max value of the numerator is tan(1) and it continues to decrease)
and the denominator will be at the very least 2 and it will continue to increase
so your fraction will continue to get smaller and smaller
in fact, it will always be smaller than 1/n
since the top will be at most 1 and the the denominator will be greater than n
so, tan(1/n)/(n+1) < 1/n
and you know that 1/n converges...so by comparison, tan(1/n)/(1+n) must also converge
I'm far from a math wiz, but here's how I see it:
tan(x) will always be between -1 and 1,
Are you sure about that? What does tan(x) approach as x approaches pi/2 from the left?
and you know that 1/n converges...so by comparison, tan(1/n)/(1+n) must also converge
The SEQUENCE with general term 1/n converges, does the series?
gammamcc
Feb23-07, 01:31 AM
Well.. sin(1/n) is approximately 1/n for large n. I would do some sort of error estimate for tan(1/n) = 1/n + error to see if the the series CONVERGES absolutely. (Error estimates for sin(1/n) may suffice.)
Watch out for comparing to the famously DIVERGING harmonic series.
mybsaccownt
Feb23-07, 05:28 AM
d_leet, ok tan(x) does approach infinity when cos(x) approaches 0
and
"The harmonic series diverges, albeit slowly, to infinity"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_%28mathematics%29
well...ok, I forgot about the n^r r > 1 condition for convergence
but that's why I put the disclaimer about not being a math wiz :-P
but...BUT...the series in question does converge
<---has super maple skills
kskiraly
Feb23-07, 06:37 AM
Thanks so much but doesnt 1/n diverge by p-series because p=1. remember p-series diverges where 1/(n^p) p<=1
kskiraly
Feb23-07, 11:03 AM
mybsaccownt sorry about the last post i didn't fully read your last one.
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