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flybyme
Feb23-07, 10:12 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Show that the power series \sum_{k=1}^{k=\infty} \frac{x^{2k+1}}{k(2k+1)} converges uniformly when |x| \leq 1and determine the sum (at least when |x| < 1).


3. The attempt at a solution

Couldn't I somehow go about and show that, as |x| \leq 1, then f = \frac{x^{2k+1}}{k(2k+1)} \leq \frac{1^{2k+1}}{k(2k+1)} = \frac{1}{k(2k+1)} = g < \frac{1}{2k^2} which converges. Then by Weierstrass majorant principle f should converge. Or am I missing something? And how do I find this sum? :confused:

Bruk
Feb23-07, 11:49 PM
you should use the ratio test. where ever the limit evaluated by ratio test is less than one the series converges

gammamcc
Feb24-07, 12:26 AM
It seems from the way you write your explanation you confuse the sum with the individual terms in the sum.

Anyway, missing some absolute values you have a handle on showing that terms are each bounded (in absolute value) uniformly in x as indicated.

To see what the sum is, what you get if you differentiated term by term?
You would have to manipulate factors and powers of x, but it reduces to using a Taylor series you know.

flybyme
Feb27-07, 09:22 PM
But if I use the ratio test, is a absolutely convergent sum also uniformly convergent?

gammamcc
Feb28-07, 12:56 AM
That it converges is one thing. What sum of the infinite series turns out for x as indicated is another

flybyme
Feb28-07, 01:44 AM
That it converges is one thing. What sum of the infinite series turns out for x as indicated is another

I'm sorry but you're speaking in riddles for me... :blushing: :uhh:

gammamcc
Feb28-07, 02:45 AM
These are excerpts from the question:




.........and determine the sum......



.......And how do I find this sum? :confused:

flybyme
Feb28-07, 05:30 AM
These are excerpts from the question:

Sorry, with "And how do I find this sum?" I was referring to the power series in section 1.

flybyme
Feb28-07, 05:34 AM
As far as I understand it I can't use the ratio test to show uniform convergence.

HallsofIvy
Feb28-07, 06:10 AM
But if I use the ratio test, is a absolutely convergent sum also uniformly convergent?

As far as I understand it I can't use the ratio test to show uniform convergence.

You certainly should know that if a power series converges absolutely on a set, then it converges uniformly on that set. See\
http://math.furman.edu/~dcs/courses/math39/lectures/lecture-39.pdf


That it converges is one thing. What sum of the infinite series turns out for x as indicated is another
He was just pointing out that you have two questions- where the series converges uniformly and what the sum is. It might help to remember that any power series is the Taylor's series for the function it converges to.

Here's what I would do. First calculate a few terms to see what is happening:
\frac{x^3}{3}+ \frac{x^5}{10}+ \frac{x^7}{21}+ \frac{x^9}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{2k+1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot
Factor out x3:
= x^3\left(\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x^2}{10}+ \frac{x^4}{21}+ \frac{x^6}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{2(k-1)}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot\right)
Write that as powers of x2:
= x^3\left(\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x^2}{10}+ \frac{(x^2)^2}{21}+ \frac{(x^2)^3}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{(x^2)^{k-1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot\right)

Can you think of a function that has Taylor's series
\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x}{10}+ \frac{x^2}{21}+ \frac{x^3}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{k-1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot?

flybyme
Mar1-07, 10:01 PM
He was just pointing out that you have two questions- where the series converges uniformly and what the sum is. It might help to remember that any power series is the Taylor's series for the function it converges to.

Ah... I totally missed that I had written "sum" instead of "series" in post #4. Guess this scheme of mine, trying to work full days and then brushing up on my math during the nights isn't going to well. I'm just too tired most of the time. My apologies.


Here's what I would do. First calculate a few terms to see what is happening:
\frac{x^3}{3}+ \frac{x^5}{10}+ \frac{x^7}{21}+ \frac{x^9}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{2k+1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot
Factor out x3:
= x^3\left(\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x^2}{10}+ \frac{x^4}{21}+ \frac{x^6}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{2(k-1)}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot\right)
Write that as powers of x2:
= x^3\left(\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x^2}{10}+ \frac{(x^2)^2}{21}+ \frac{(x^2)^3}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{(x^2)^{k-1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot\right)

Can you think of a function that has Taylor's series
\frac{1}{3}+ \frac{x}{10}+ \frac{x^2}{21}+ \frac{x^3}{36}+\cdot\cdot\cdot + \frac{x^{k-1}}{k(2k+1)}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot?

Not really...

gammamcc
Mar1-07, 11:01 PM
As in my previous installment, if you differentiated term by term (maybe more that once, if needed), you would arrive at a more familiar series. Then work backwards (integrate) so you get an explicit formula.

tim_lou
Mar2-07, 01:36 AM
heh, you want to try to find some close form for the original series??? just differentiate with respect to x!!! (it is quite obvious! come on!)