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Moogle
Apr28-03, 10:22 AM
Since the gravity of a black hole affects light, does a baem of light accelerate when it nears a black hole ? Just wondering.

MrCaN
Apr28-03, 02:23 PM
No

chroot
Apr28-03, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Moogle
Since the gravity of a black hole affects light, does a baem of light accelerate when it nears a black hole ? Just wondering.
It doesn't change speed -- but it changes direction.

Physicists refer to any change in the velocity vector an acceleration, though -- so yes, the light does accelerate. Its velocity vector does not change in magnitude however, which means the light does not change speed.

- Warren

dr-dock
Apr28-03, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by chroot
It doesn't change speed -- but it changes direction.

Physicists refer to any change in the velocity vector an acceleration, though -- so yes, the light does accelerate. Its velocity vector does not change in magnitude however, which means the light does not change speed.

- Warren
nonsense.
when direction changes there are all three: normal, tangentional and torsional changes of the vector.
and how exactly do you find light to be cabable of traveling?
is it in a sense light changes position?
in my room now the lights are on.where do i find the light now?
how do i ensure the light after awhile has gone from there?

finally can you put light on bread and eat it?

Brad_Ad23
Apr28-03, 05:37 PM
dock, what the heck?? Are you capable of making sensible posts at all anymore, and even of understanding extremely basic vector mechanics?

selfAdjoint
Apr28-03, 06:01 PM
A light beam always follow the shortest path through the vacuum. If space is flat that path is a straight line. But near a gravitational source it is a curved line, called a geodesic. Light follows it.

The gravitational potential will not acclerate the ligh, but it will change its frequency. For light, momentum is exhibited as frequency according to the equation momentum equals planck's constant times frequency. p=h[nu].

marcus
Apr28-03, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
A light beam always follow the shortest path through the vacuum. If space is flat that path is a straight line. But near a gravitational source it is a curved line, called a geodesic. Light follows it.

The gravitational potential will not acclerate the ligh, but it will change its frequency. For light, momentum is exhibited as frequency according to the equation momentum equals planck's constant times frequency. p=h[nu].

Or E = h ν

and p = E/c = hν /c

marcus
Apr28-03, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by marcus
Or E = h ν

and p = E/c = hν /c

that thing that looks like a vee is supposed to be a nu.

I used & nu ; (without the spaces)

is there another way to get nu?

Let's try [ nu ] (w/o the spacing)

E = h[nu]

E/c = h[nu]/c

Ben-CS
Apr30-03, 12:28 PM
dr-dock:
Can you put light on bread and eat it?

Yes, but that is a topic for another thread.