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darkar
Mar14-04, 11:13 AM
Opposite charge always attract and same charge repel each other.
Will proton and electron crash on each other? What will happen if they do so?

mathman
Mar15-04, 09:46 PM
In describing what goes on between a proton and an electron at this level, you have to work with energy levels. The hydrogen atom at its lowest energy is lower in energy than a neutron. As a result, when electrons and protons get close, they form hydrogen atoms.

Janitor
Mar15-04, 10:43 PM
There are a couple of interesting modes of radioactivity which involve the sort of thing you are asking about. Look for "electron capture" and "internal conversion" on this page:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/radact2.html

garytse86
Apr14-04, 04:10 AM
my teacher said that the neutron is actually a proton and an electron orbitting it within planck distance

ZapperZ
Apr14-04, 08:05 AM
my teacher said that the neutron is actually a proton and an electron orbitting it within planck distance

Then your teacher needs to have his/her head examined.

There are several things you can tell this person that leads to indications that this isn't the right model for the neutron:

1. The LOWEST energy level for a proton-electron system is that found in the hydrogen atom. If an electron can get any closer to the proton to form that neutron model, then we would have seen lots and lots of H atom coverting itself into neutrons. This doesn't happen. This is because there's simply no states available for an electron to occupy within the single-electron energy level.

2. A proton has spin of 1/2. An electron has a spin of 1/2. But a neutron ALSO has a spin of 1/2. How does two 1/2's make 1/2? A system consisting of two spin 1/2 can produce a composite system with spin of 0 or 1, but NOT 1/2.

3. Your teacher should know by now not mislead people into thinking that an electron actually have classical "orbits", dispite the recent article in Nature.

Zz.

clint
Apr28-04, 06:23 PM
The neutron by itself decays thanks to the weak force, the electron itself does not decay thanks to charge conservation, but ... a proton alone ?

arivero
Apr29-04, 11:09 AM
Decay where? I mean, decay is always towards a less energetical state.

Hmm in some sense a proton does not decay, but four protons decay into Helium, with this criteria of my own... should I reshape it?