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obsolete
Jul16-07, 07:16 AM
Hi everyone.

I know this question is quite simple but I can't wrap my head around it at the moment..

Solve for y: ln(x) + ln(y) = 0

I've tried differentiating both terms and then arranging for y but I get y = -x. The answer is meant to be y = 1/x.

Thanks all!

ranger
Jul16-07, 07:32 AM
How about the property of:
ln(x) + ln(y) = ln(xy)

Gib Z
Jul16-07, 07:50 AM
Taking ln x to the other side and exponentiating gives:

y = e^{-\ln x}

I think the problem you are having is that you are thinking "e^{\ln x}= x, so this one should be -x". But remember the the negative sign is in the exponent.

If that is still not clear enough perhaps this will help : a \log x = \log (x^a) for any base.

Kummer
Jul16-07, 08:34 AM
I've tried differentiating both terms and then arranging for y but I get y = -x. The answer is meant to be y = 1/x.


You cannot differentiate both sides, because those are numbers not functions. The derivatives will yield zero and nothing important.

HallsofIvy
Jul16-07, 11:02 AM
How about the property of:
ln(x) + ln(y) = ln(xy)

Gosh, do I feel dumb! I did that by writing it as ln x= -ln y.

Yes, ln x+ ln y= ln xy= 0 is easier.

obsolete
Jul16-07, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I had already considered ln(x) + ln(y) = ln(xy) but I don't know how to approach the problem using this law. Any directions?

Thanks again.

Dick
Jul16-07, 01:18 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I had already considered ln(x) + ln(y) = ln(xy) but I don't know how to approach the problem using this law. Any directions?

Thanks again.

You've got ln(xy)=0. What then is the value of xy?

K.J.Healey
Jul16-07, 01:28 PM
Forget the ln(xy), and use your ln(x)+ln(y)=0
do what you did next, your gut instinct was right.
ln(x)=-ln(y)
now dont exponentiate yet, whats -ln(y)? Remeber a*log(x) = log(x^a) right? so whats (-1)*ln(y)?

After you understand that, exponentiate, and solve :) e^log(a)=a

K.J.Healey
Jul16-07, 01:29 PM
Just to add, the ln(xy) way works too. Its just that I don't want you to think that the way you started was wrong.

obsolete
Jul16-07, 11:52 PM
I finally understand =)

Thanks all!