Voltage Measurement on Energized Capacitor: Explained for Rookies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the measurement of voltage on an energized capacitor, particularly the differences between measuring phase to ground and phase to phase. Participants explore the reasoning behind these measurements and share personal experiences and practices related to electrical safety and meter usage.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for a simple explanation of why voltage can be measured from a capacitor without current flow to ground, highlighting the importance of measuring phase to phase and phase to ground before working on electrical devices.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "ground" in the context of a charged capacitor, suggesting a need for clarity on this term.
  • A participant explains that measuring voltage with a digital meter to ground shows no current flow because there is no path for current to ground, emphasizing the importance of safety checks before measurements.
  • Several participants share their practices of checking meter continuity and ensuring proper settings before taking voltage measurements, indicating a common approach to safety in electrical work.
  • One participant mentions a recurring issue with their multimeter, specifically the problem of blowing the meter fuse when switching from current to voltage measurements, indicating a potential area of concern for users.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of safety practices when measuring voltage, but there is no consensus on the definition of "ground" in relation to a charged capacitor, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of measuring voltage in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of electrical terms and the conditions under which measurements are taken are not fully explored, leaving room for interpretation and further discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrical safety practices, those new to working with capacitors, and professionals seeking to understand voltage measurement techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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can anyone explain to a rookie in very simple terms why you can measure voltage from a capacitor (or any other electrical device) that is energized and find no current via phase to ground but measured voltage phase to phase. In my job we're taught to measure phase to phase and phase to ground b4 proceeding to work on any electrical devices.
 
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What is your ground, when you consider a sole charged capacitor?
 
This is very simple indeed! When you measure the voltage on a capacitor with a digital meter to ground (who uses Simpson 260s anymore) there is no path for current flow to ground.

That is very smart advice you get at work. I always put my meter on resistance first and check for continuity in the meter leads before proceeding with the measurement. I then check phase to phase and then phase to ground to ensure there is no voltage potential. Sometimes I also check my meter on a known live circuit also to make sure it is working properly. After all of that I touch the electrical part very fast to ensure I don't get a shock. This is from someone who does not need to be reminded anymore.
 
capnahab said:
I always put my meter on resistance first and check for continuity in the meter leads before proceeding with the measurement. I then check phase to phase and then phase to ground to ensure there is no voltage potential.


But don't forget to switch from "resistance" to "voltage" in between :smile:
 
100% right! My biggest problem is after checking current with my Fluke multimeter, I put the voltage measuring leads in the same holes and then blow the meter fuse, a cycle that keeps repeating.
 
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