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Feynmanfan
Apr7-04, 02:03 PM
Could anybody please tell me how to do this?
Σn/[(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)]
Thanks!
You tried splitting up into partial fractions and using the method where you have one function minus another?
Feynmanfan
Apr7-04, 02:20 PM
I've already splitted it. It's interesting that each fraction alone diverges but the whole sum converges. But now I don't know what to do. What is this method you told me about?
Thanks
MathematicalPhysicist
Apr7-04, 02:36 PM
as zurtx said you can split it like this : Σ(1/[n+3])*(1/[n+1]-1/[n+2])=1/[n+3]*Σ1/[n+1]-1/[n+2]).
Feynmanfan
Apr7-04, 02:43 PM
Still can't solve it. My computer says it certainly converges to 1/4. How can I prove that?
MathematicalPhysicist
Apr7-04, 02:49 PM
Still can't solve it. My computer says it certainly converges to 1/4. How can I prove that?
did you learned the term when a series is telescoped (or something of that that sort i have it on a book in hebrew in level of calclus 2)?
matt grime
Apr7-04, 03:01 PM
LQG, you can't take that term outside the summation as the n is part of the summation index.
MathematicalPhysicist
Apr7-04, 03:19 PM
<acronym title='Loop Quantum Gravity' style='cursor:help;'>LGQ</acronym>, you can't take that term outside the summation as the n is part of the summation index.
it cannot be representing a coefficient in the form of Σd*(a1-an)
where d=1/(n+3) is the coefficient?
matt grime
Apr7-04, 03:29 PM
Apologies for getting LGQ and <acronym title='Loop Quantum Gravity' style='cursor:help;'>LGQ</acronym> mixed up (if it's any consolation I'm reading a paper on TQFT and such as I write (well, not exactly "as I write" but you get the idea))
You're taking the sum indexed by n when you say 1/[n+3]*Σ1/[n+1]-1/[n+2] ie n runs from something to something. You can't take the n+3 outside like that.
It's just like taking the x outside an integral wrt x (of course it's possible that it is the interior part of the summation that is wrong)
Feynmanfan
Apr7-04, 03:32 PM
matt grime is right. Yet that doesn't solve the problem. Thanks anyway for your help
matt grime
Apr7-04, 03:49 PM
but you can do it by separating into partial fractions, it's quite easy isn't it?
Where A, B, C are arbitrary constants let:
\frac{n}{(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)} = \frac{A}{n+1} + \frac{B}{n+2} + \frac{C}{n+3}
Work out A, B and C. Now I could be wrong but I got A and C as negative numbers. So you should be able to write out the functions first few values n= 1, 2, 3, 4 and spot a pattern that if you add them together terms will start to cancel and you can extend that to n = r-3, r-2, r-1, r and get a general equation for the sum of f(n) from n = 1 to r.
I just worked this out and the answer is in fact 1/4. Zurtex has the right approach. Find A, B and C and then write out the first several terms for each partial fraction. You should see a bunch of them cancel and you'll be left with a couple terms per fraction. From there, you can see the limit.
Feynmanfan
Apr9-04, 01:02 PM
Thanks everybody! You're all great.
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