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FUNKER
Apr9-04, 01:13 AM
what is the result or simplification of

( ln(i^2) )^2

sweet bro
:confused:

Janitor
Apr9-04, 01:24 AM
First, i^2=-1.

Then note that exp(i pi) = -1.

So ln(-1) = ln[exp(i pi)] = i pi.

Square it: (i pi)^2 = - pi^2.

EDIT: I should caution that this is a solution. I make no claim that it is the only solution.

chroot
Apr9-04, 01:40 AM
-\pi^2 is definitely a solution. I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...?

- Warren

cookiemonster
Apr9-04, 01:48 AM
He wasn't even referring to solutions, was he? He just wanted a simplification of an expression, no?

cookiemonster

chroot
Apr9-04, 01:54 AM
Well, heh, right, not solutions... I meant that -\pi^2 is the simplest possible form for it. I see what Janitor was saying now -- that there may be better simplifications. If so, I don't see any.

- Warren

Janitor
Apr9-04, 01:55 AM
I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...?

Chroot, here's the sort of thing I am worried about:

Note that exp(3 i pi) = -1.

So ln(-1) = ln[exp(3 i pi)] = 3 i pi.

Square it: (3 i pi)^2 = - 9 pi^2.

matt grime
Apr9-04, 05:30 AM
the principal branch is usually what we mean when we ask for log of a complex number, which is the same as the principal value of arg, ie Arg

FUNKER
Apr10-04, 04:05 AM
thanks for all ur help dudes, and yea I believe this is a solution aswell as a simplification.

Hurkyl
Apr10-04, 07:53 AM
When I took complex analysis, we used ln for the multivalued version and Ln for the principal branch.