What is the equation of a cylinder with an angled axis and variable intercepts?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equation of a cylinder with an angled axis in the xy-plane, specifically when the axis intersects the y-axis at a distance 'k'. Participants explore various mathematical approaches to formulate this equation, including transformations and rotations of coordinate systems.

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  • Xishan poses the initial question regarding the equation of a cylinder with its axis in the xy-plane and making an angle 'alpha' with the x-axis, expressing difficulty in finding a solution.
  • One participant suggests applying a rotation and translation of the coordinate system to derive the equation for the cylinder.
  • Another participant challenges the initial suggestion, arguing that the equation should involve all coordinates (x, y, z) since the cylinder's axis is not parallel to any of the coordinate axes.
  • A further reply clarifies that the rotation will align the cylinder's axis along a new coordinate axis, but the specifics of the transformation remain unclear.
  • Xishan later presents a derived equation for the cylindrical surface, stating it is valid for a cylinder with its axis in the yz-plane and making an angle 'a' with the y-axis. This equation is shown to reduce to known forms for specific angles.
  • Xishan also notes that if the axis is moved away from the origin, the respective intercepts can be adjusted accordingly.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate approach to derive the equation of the cylinder, with no consensus reached on the best method. Some agree on the validity of transformations, while others question their applicability in this context.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the cylinder and the transformations applied, which may not be universally agreed upon. The dependence on specific definitions of angles and axes is also noted.

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What is the equation of a cylinder with its axis in the xy-plane and making an angle 'alpha' with the x-axis, the axis intersects the y-axis at a distance of 'k'?
Initially i thought this problem to be very simple but haven't got any success with it in last few days

thanks for your help!
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Take the expression for a cylinder aligned with the axis, apply a rotation and translation of your coordinate system.
For a translation
[tex]x = x' + h[/tex]
[tex]y= y'+k[/tex]

for the rotation
[tex]x= x'\cos( \theta) + y'\sin( \theta)[/tex]
[tex]y=x'\sin(\theta)+y'\cos(\theta)[/tex]
 
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No sir!

When the cylinder's axis lies in xy plane and is NOT PARALLEL to any of the axes, shouldn't the equation comprise of all the coordintes (i.e., x, y & z)?

What you've given here is OK for an in-plane rotation or translation but not for my case! or is it? This way the cylinder is rotated about its own axis which for a right circular cylinder doesn't need any axes transformation at all!
 
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Xishan,

Your original question said the axis is in the xy plane, but not parallel to x or y. Integral's rotation will make it lie along the new x (or new y, I can never tell which until I've done the rotation!) axis.
 
I've just managed to solve the problem, the equation of that cylindrical surface turns out to be,

x^2 + y^2 sin(a)^2 + z^2 cos(a)^2 -yz sin(2a) <= r^2

this cylinder has its axis in the yz plane and makes an angle 'a' with the y-axis in the ccw direction. This can now be verified: putting a=0 gives the equation of a cylinder with its axis along y axis,
x^2 + z^2 <= r^2

and for a = 90,
x^2 + y^2 = r^2, a cylinder with its axis along z axis!

now if the axis is moved away from the origin, the respective intercepts may be subtracted from x, y or z.

Thanks everyone for considering this problem!
 

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