Which processes are posible and why?

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The discussion revolves around particle interactions involving photons, electrons, and positrons, specifically examining the conservation of energy and momentum in these processes. Participants explore the feasibility of certain interactions and the implications of conservation laws in the context of free particles.

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  • Participants discuss the interactions of photons with free electrons and the annihilation of positrons with electrons, questioning the conservation of momentum and energy in these scenarios. They raise concerns about whether one or two photons are produced in the annihilation process and the implications of these interactions on the conservation laws.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the conservation laws and questioning the validity of certain proposed processes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the center of mass system and the implications of momentum conservation, although there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the explanations provided.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of particle physics and conservation principles, with some expressing uncertainty about the outcomes of specific interactions. The discussion reflects a mix of theoretical exploration and practical application of conservation laws.

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1. Photon runs into motionless electron and gives the electron all of its energy
2. Fast positron interacts with motionless electron producing one photon

1. I know that if that electron were in atom, photon of some energy could give its energy, and electron would jump into a higher energy state. But what about free electron, as in this case? And why not if it's not possible?

2. positron and electron should anihilate producing photon, but I'm not sure is it 1 or two photons, and I don't know the argument why.
 
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If you calculate the momenta and energy using Conservation laws, you should be able to see whether they are possible or not.
 
1. Are p and E conserved?
2. Calculate E^2-p^2 for the initial and final state.
 
clem said:
1. Are p and E conserved?
p=(E(photon)+E(electron), p1+p2=0) before, after I should have E of electron that exceeds rest mass of electron, and no momentum, so the answer should be that process is not possible.

clem said:
2. Calculate E^2-p^2 for the initial and final state.
It should not be possible because photon should have some momentum (three component momentum) and since it doesn't have any mass, it can't be possible.

Are these correct explanations?
 
Ene Dene said:
p=(E(photon)+E(electron), p1+p2=0) before, after I should have E of electron that exceeds rest mass of electron, and no momentum, so the answer should be that process is not possible.


It should not be possible because photon should have some momentum (three component momentum) and since it doesn't have any mass, it can't be possible.

Are these correct explanations?
Neither is possible, but your reasoning is flawed.
For #1, look at the barycentric (or "center of mass") system where the total momentum is zero. The final state would have total energy mc^2, while the initial system would have a higher total energy.
For #2, one photon cannot be produced because there is no center of mass system for a single photon.
 

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