Umklapp Process: K_1+K_2=K_3+G Explained

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The discussion revolves around the umklapp process in solid-state physics, specifically the equation K_1 + K_2 = K_3 + G, where G represents a nonzero quantity. Participants are seeking clarification on how momentum conservation applies in this context, particularly given the complexities introduced by quasi-momentum and external periodic potentials.

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  • Participants explore the distinction between quasi-momentum and true momentum, questioning the conservation principles in the presence of external potentials. There is a discussion about whether a conservation equation can be formulated for umklapp collisions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of quasi-momentum and its non-conservation, suggesting that momentum conservation is only valid modulo a reciprocal lattice vector. The conversation appears to be productive, with various interpretations of the implications of these principles being explored.

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Participants note the influence of external periodic potentials on the conservation of momentum and the implications of Noether's theorem in this context. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved in applying conservation laws in non-uniform potentials.

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Can someone please explain to me how umklapp processes K_1 +K_2 = K_3 +G where G is nonzero conserve momentum? I have read the explanation in Kittel over and over and I just don't understand. I also read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=165385 so don't just give me a link to that.


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ehrenfest said:

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Can someone please explain to me how umklapp processes K_1 +K_2 = K_3 +G where G is nonzero conserve momentum?
your K's are not momentum--they are quasi-momentum. They enter into the theory via bloch's theorem which presumes the existence of an external periodic potential. because of this potential, eigenstates of the hamiltonian (labelled by their quasi-momentum) are not eigenstates of the momentum operator.

Quasi-momentum is not conserved.

Similarly, *in the presence of an external potential* true momentum is not conserved either.



I have read the explanation in Kittel over and over and I just don't understand. I also read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=165385 so don't just give me a link to that.


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olgranpappy said:
your K's are not momentum--they are quasi-momentum. They enter into the theory via bloch's theorem which presumes the existence of an external periodic potential. because of this potential, eigenstates of the hamiltonian (labelled by their quasi-momentum) are not eigenstates of the momentum operator.

Quasi-momentum is not conserved.

Similarly, *in the presence of an external potential* true momentum is not conserved either.

OK. So, is there a conservation of momentum equation associated with a given umklapp collision that we can write down or is that not part of the theory?
 
the relevant equation is the one you wrote down where quasi-momentum is not-conservered, but is "conserved modulo a reciproal lattice vector". So, for example, if I scatter a particle of energy E and (quasi) momentum [itex]\vec p[/itex] by absorbing a phonon of energy [itex]\omega[/itex] and wave-vector [itex]\vec q[/itex], then I have for conservation of energy and (non) conservation of quasi-momentum
[tex] E_{\rm final}=E(p)+\omega(q)[/tex]
and
[tex] \vec p_{\rm final}=\vec p + \vec q + \vec Q[/tex]
where Q is a vector of the reciprocal lattice.
 
Perhaps another way to look at it is that conservation of momentum is a result of translation invariance -- application of Noether's theorem. So if I have a non-uniform potential through space I should not expect momentum to be conserved. Here, we have the slightly perculiar feature that spatial translation is invariant if you do it by a lattice vector. So we have a variable k which is "conserved up to a reciprocal lattice vector".
 

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