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stevebd1
Jun8-08, 10:25 PM
I'm currently looking at Kruskal-Szekeres coordinates in relation to a static black hole.

For the exterior region, the coordinates are-

R=\left(\frac{r}{2GM}-1\right)^{1/2}e^{r/4GM}cosh\left(\frac{t}{4GM}\right)

For the interior-

R=\left(1-\frac{r}{2GM}\right)^{1/2}e^{r/4GM}sinh\left(\frac{t}{4GM}\right)

where c = 1 and G, the gravitational constant, is kept explicit.

I've looked extensively on the web but can find very little as to explaining the equations in a bit more depth. I'd appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what e represents and while I'm certain that c^2 appears adjacent to r in the first set of brackets, does it appear anywhere else in the equations? Also, would it be correct to assume that t represents time?

Wallace
Jun9-08, 07:58 AM
Check out this (http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schwp.html) site. It goes through the various co-ordinate representations of black holes and has some nice animations as well. I think it should answer your question.

stevebd1
Jun11-08, 04:15 AM
Thanks for the link Wallace. I also found a paper that covered the subject 'Kruskal Coordinates and Mass of Schwarzschild Black Holes by' Abhas Mitra-

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9904162

Unfortunately, neither actually state what the quantities e and t are, I can only assume that e is energy and t is time but don't see how they would be incorporated into the equations. It appears to be taken for granted that e and t are understood but would appreciate confirmation as to what they are.

Wallace
Jun11-08, 04:24 AM
t is time, though of course it is a different time co-ordinate to that appearing in the Schwarschild metric. I'm pretty sure that the e is just the constant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28mathematical_constant%29) (i.e. the same e as in Log_e = Ln).

George Jones
Jun11-08, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the link Wallace. I also found a paper that covered the subject 'Kruskal Coordinates and Mass of Schwarzschild Black Holes by' Abhas Mitra-

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9904162

Careful; the main results of this infamous and unpublished paper are quite wrong.

stevebd1
Jun12-08, 02:46 AM
Thanks for the heads up George, I was under the impression that if a paper was on the arxiv website then it had passed some seal of approval, that doesn't appear to be the case; I'm assuming that Kruskal-Szekeres coordinates are still legite though. Regarding e being a constant and probably the log of something, what exactly would it be the log of?

stevebd1
Jun12-08, 03:43 AM
I twigged within a couple of minutes of my reply that e is a constant as stipulated in the wikipedia link; Physics Forums appears to undergo some kind of maintanence around 7.45 and 8.15 am GMT (which would be around midnight PDT) so I couldn't edit my post. Does anyone have an idea of how time would be incorporated as t?