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janemba
Jun28-08, 08:49 AM
which one should i buy

nicksauce
Jun28-08, 11:36 AM
I would say neither. You probably want something more rigorous if you want to learn calculus by yourself, at least on the level of Stewart. Books like this should probably only be an accompaniment to a good textbook.

If you had to go for one or the other, I would probably say the Demystified book, as I have heard fairly good things about the series.

janemba
Jun28-08, 11:46 AM
thanks

vociferous
Jun28-08, 12:11 PM
Get something like the REA: Problem Solver. If you are trying to study it on your own, do all of the problems, because you will not have an instructor to test your knowledge.

Applied Calculus is something that has barely changed in the last century, but still textbook manufacturers publish new editions. Instead of dropping $200 on the latest Stewart book, look for an older edition that you could probably pick up for about ten dollars.

Reading about math is no substitute for doing it.

razored
Jun29-08, 12:27 AM
Why not take a shot at Spivak's Calculus? Or Apostol ? Both are quite rigorous.

kts123
Jun29-08, 02:43 AM
I picked up Calculus on an "Idiot's Guide to" and "CALCULUS: An Intuitive and Physical Approach," by Morris Kline (it's only around $30.) From first hand experience I can tell you though, you will NEED a work book to practice everything you learn -- and you might want to think about picking up a regular text book after you get the basics down. Simple books will teach you the basics, but you will never "feel" Calculus with them.

Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you study Trigonometry (trust me, coordinate systems without trig are useless -- you'll find yourself memorizing formula's that you should be able to make yourself in a few seconds.)

razored
Jun29-08, 08:12 AM
Simple books will teach you the basics, but you will never "feel" Calculus with them.

Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you study Trigonometry (trust me, coordinate systems without trig are useless -- you'll find yourself memorizing formula's that you should be able to make yourself in a few seconds.)

In my opinion,
"Simple books will teach you the basics, but you will never "feel" Calculus with them."
Not really.

"Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you study Trigonometry (trust me, coordinate systems without trig are useless -- you'll find yourself memorizing formula's that you should be able to make yourself in a few seconds."
Definitely need to know trig before you touch Calculus.

Other than that, the Morris Kline book a person mentioned is actually good. In addition with "Essential Calculus" from Dover. I don't think you can go wrong with those two books to first learning Calculus. But before you immerse yourself into those, make sure you practically master trig and the basics.

Alienjoey
Jun29-08, 11:21 AM
(If you get the Morris Kline book, a PDF file of the solutions guide is available from the publishers upon request, as they say on their website, in case you aren't sure if you are on the right track: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486404536.html)

kts123
Jun29-08, 12:33 PM
Not really.

"No, you will "feel" it." Or "No it won't teach you the basics."? Of the dumbed down books I've read, none of them ever seem to truly address the underlining principles, akin to teaching someone Pythagorean Theorem as opposed to the laws of cosines (and then neglecting to mention how it relates to the Cartesian Coordinate system.). The Kline book I mentioned, however, really had meat and potato's (it seems people already agree with that one, so I guess I don't need to mentioned it.)

razored
Jun29-08, 03:34 PM
"Simple books will teach you the basics, but you will never "feel" Calculus with them."

Yeah sorry, skipped the "Simple" in front of books when I read this. You are right, you will not "feel" Calculus from simple books(I had something else in mind). Back to Kline, yes, a great book according to a buddy of mine. I actually plan to get it myself; the other dover book, Essential Calculus which I already own, is excellent for first exposure to Calculus. Essential Calculus by Dover actually has some rigor to it which I enjoyed greatly.

janemba
Jun29-08, 06:48 PM
I Need a Book that will teach all of calculus if you never did it before ?

Pseudo Statistic
Jun29-08, 09:33 PM
Try Schaum's Outline of Calculus; it starts from the Precalculus stuff and works its way up.

janemba
Jun30-08, 12:22 PM
thanks

TristanH
Jun30-08, 04:10 PM
In case the poster or anyone is considering "Calculus Demystified". AVOID this book. It is poorly written, unclear and jumps all over the place. I bought it to brush up on Calc I'd forgotten and was totally lost. I ended up buying Kline which is tremendously better.

Quantom
Jun30-08, 08:16 PM
I would certainly look at The Calculus Lifesaver by Adrian Banner because its a great book and he has free video lectures that go along with his book on iTunes under iTunesU.

P.S.-Don't buy calculus for dummies. I did and I regret it. It's just silly...

janemba
Jun30-08, 11:00 PM
OH thanks

roam
Jul15-08, 08:31 PM
If you want something for self-study try "Calculus - The Early Transcendentals" by Howard Anton.
You may want to get "Schaum's Outline of Calculus" as well, if you want lots of worked examples and exercises.