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ritwik06
Aug5-08, 07:20 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
PLease HELP ME INTEGRATE THIS>
\int\frac{dh}{\sqrt{h^{2}-k^{2}}}
k is constant
You will have to show some attempt first.
ritwik06
Aug5-08, 07:54 PM
If I take h^2 common from the integral, it will be:
\int\frac{dh}{h\sqrt{1-\frac{k^{2}}{h^{2}}}}
which finally gives:
\frac{\sqrt{1-\frac{k^{2}}{h^{2}}}}{k^{2}}
Defennder
Aug5-08, 09:16 PM
I don't see how that follows. Your first step is right, next you should use a trigo substitution.
ritwik06
Aug9-08, 09:28 AM
I am redefining the question:
\int\frac{dx}{\sqrt{x^{2}-a^{2}}}
taking x^2 common
\int\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}}}
let 1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}=t
\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{dt}{(1-t)(\sqrt{t})}
let\sqrt{t}=j
\int\frac{dj}{1-j^{2}}
how shall i proceed
As mentioned before trig substitution is the way to go from the very start.
I am redefining the question:
\int\frac{dx}{\sqrt{x^{2}-a^{2}}}
taking x^2 common
\int\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}}}
let 1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}=t
\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{dt}{(1-t)(\sqrt{t})}
let\sqrt{t}=j
\int\frac{dj}{1-j^{2}}
how shall i proceed
I also agree with others, but assuming that you have the last step right:
\int\frac{dj}{1-j^{2}}
You should do decomposition and partial fraction ...
Defennder
Aug9-08, 09:59 AM
You've made it a lot more tedious than it could have been with a simple trigo substitution.
ritwik06
Aug9-08, 11:52 AM
please be more explicit. Actually there is no sign of trigo ratio in the answer :S
See my PDf file located in the following thread. Specifically section 4.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=213784
HallsofIvy
Aug9-08, 01:02 PM
I am redefining the question:
\int\frac{dx}{\sqrt{x^{2}-a^{2}}}
taking x^2 common
\int\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}}}
let 1-\frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}}=t
\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{dt}{(1-t)(\sqrt{t})}
let\sqrt{t}=j
\int\frac{dj}{1-j^{2}}
how shall i proceed
Pretty much every step is wrong. You seem to be consistly forgetting to replace the "dx" or "dt" term.
For example, if you let 1-\frac{a^2}{x^2}=t then \frac{2a^2}{x^3}dx= dt. How are you going to substitute for that?
Even if that were correct when you say "let \sqrt{t}= j", you should have \frac{1}{2\sqrt{t}}dt= dj.
As everyone has been telling you from the start, use a trig substitution. sin^2 \theta+ cos^2 \theta= 1 so tan^2 \theta+ 1= sec^2 \theta.
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